Richard, I totally agree on the subjective nature of "font appreciation" but that's not really what I am highlighting here. What I am seeing is a difference between the quality of font rendering between JFX and native apps on the same machine with the same font etc. and the JFX rendering is definitely less sharp/black. Some may prefer that (not me) but the issue is that there *is* a difference.
Cheers, -jct On 18 Aug 2014, at 10:36 pm, Richard Bair <richard.b...@oracle.com> wrote: >> I won't be able to get access to a Windows machine for another week or so >> but when I do I will gladly send you some screenshots. However, are you >> saying that this is the first time anyone has reported such a finding? >> There's no existing JIRA for this specific issue? I ask because even though >> people tell me I am super fussy with fonts and see things others just can't >> see, I have observed the stated discrepancy on *every* Windows machine I >> have tried with JFX 8 (about 4 quite different machines) so I would be very >> surprised if no one else notices a difference. > > It is really common for two font fussy people to disagree on which font > rendering is “better” :-). We’ve also looked at various applications and it > seems to be a mixture of different techniques (sometimes even within the same > app!). For such things, it might be better to expose some kind of settings > that lets the developer chose which font hinting they want to use or other > settings. Just something to keep in mind. > > The other day I was doing some HTML (blah) and comparing the font rendering > with another website. My fonts were dark and heavy, their fonts were light > and stylish. The font was exactly the same. The weight was exactly the same. > The style, variant, etc were all the same. The difference was > '-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased;’. I don’t know if the two of us, given > the same page and same rendering, would agree on which font looked nicer > (maybe we would, maybe not, I really don’t know!). > > Which makes me think we probably need to expose some toggles so folks can > tweak the characteristics to their liking. > > Richard
