Can you file a JIRA and send screen-shots to Felipe?

-- Kevin


John C. Turnbull wrote:
Richard, I totally agree on the subjective nature of "font appreciation" but 
that's not really what I am highlighting here. What I am seeing is a difference between 
the quality of font rendering between JFX and native apps on the same machine with the 
same font etc. and the JFX rendering is definitely less sharp/black. Some may prefer that 
(not me) but the issue is that there *is* a difference.

Cheers,

-jct

On 18 Aug 2014, at 10:36 pm, Richard Bair <richard.b...@oracle.com> wrote:

I won't be able to get access to a Windows machine for another week or so but 
when I do I will gladly send you some screenshots.  However, are you saying 
that this is the first time anyone has reported such a finding? There's no 
existing JIRA for this specific issue? I ask because even though people tell me 
I am super fussy with fonts and see things others just can't see, I have 
observed the stated discrepancy on *every* Windows machine I have tried with 
JFX 8 (about 4 quite different machines) so I would be very surprised if no one 
else notices a difference.
It is really common for two font fussy people to disagree on which font 
rendering is “better” :-). We’ve also looked at various applications and it 
seems to be a mixture of different techniques (sometimes even within the same 
app!). For such things, it might be better to expose some kind of settings that 
lets the developer chose which font hinting they want to use or other settings. 
Just something to keep in mind.

The other day I was doing some HTML (blah) and comparing the font rendering 
with another website. My fonts were dark and heavy, their fonts were light and 
stylish. The font was exactly the same. The weight was exactly the same. The 
style, variant, etc were all the same. The difference was 
'-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased;’. I don’t know if the two of us, given 
the same page and same rendering, would agree on which font looked nicer (maybe 
we would, maybe not, I really don’t know!).

Which makes me think we probably need to expose some toggles so folks can tweak 
the characteristics to their liking.

Richard

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