Speaking of promotion an VW, does it make the Golf an outdated car just because they stopped TV marketing in Germany because their sales is running quite well still? ;-)
-----Original Message----- From: openjfx-dev [mailto:openjfx-dev-boun...@openjdk.java.net] On Behalf Of Tom Eugelink Sent: Montag, 30. November 2015 22:53 To: openjfx-dev@openjdk.java.net Subject: Re: Future of JavaFX There indeed seems to be negative buzz around JavaFX, and Oracle stopping with promoting it, is indeed confusing, at the very least. And it is noticeable everywhere; without wanting to wine, I really do have a nice JavaFX / JFXtras presentation, but it being declined on all conferences for me is a signal about the interest of the community in JavaFX. And let's be honest, Oracle's whole "let's do cloud and forget there are companies doing this many many years already" U turn is not contributing to the mood as well. OTOH, from what I hear VW has chosen to use JavaFX for it's in car systems. And I have just been on an interview for a traffic management system where they chose JavaFX over web based. So there also is adoption. But it will be slow. My gut says: give it time, and a bit of TLC promotionwise would not be bad. Tom On 30-11-2015 21:35, Florian Brunner wrote: > I read this article as well some days ago. It has some very valid points, but > all in all I think JavaFX is still the best option out there. > > That said I was quite surprised that I got confronted today with the very same > article by colleagues of mine who are in charge with company-wide adoption of > various technologies. They tend to agree with the article. Currently JavaFX is > still just on our technology radar, but not promoted yet. And now they start > thinking JavFX (and probably thus Java on desktop not even speaking about > mobile platforms) won't make it and it's getting hard to convince them that > JavaFX is actually a great option. > > Now reading this mail of yours, this article really seems to make waves. > > -Florian > > > Am Montag, 30. November 2015, 17.13:10 schrieb Dirk @ Google: >> Hi there, >> >> there has been quite a shake-up in the JavaFX community last week when Shay >> Almog (Codename One) first responded to a blog of mine >> (dlemmermann.wordpress.com) with a lot of negative comments regarding >> JavaFX and its future. He then followed up with a long blog asking the >> question „Should Oracle Spring-Clean JavaFX“ >> (https://www.codenameone.com/blog/should-oracle-spring-clean-javafx.html >> <https://www.codenameone.com/blog/should-oracle-spring-clean-javafx.html>). >> >> I do understand that it is often a good strategy to not comment on stuff >> like this because commenting would just draw attention to it, but we have >> now reached the point where potential customers are questioning the >> sustainability of a JavaFX-based solution. They are now wondering if JavaFX >> will still be around in a few years. In my specific case the customer >> demands an answer from me and my partners within the next week, and if not >> convincing they will go with something / someone else. We will loose a >> contract worth around one million dollars because of one blog written by >> Shay with no follow-up from Oracle. >> >> What is needed is an official statement from Oracle / Oracle employees / >> JavaFX development team, saying that Oracle is still committed to JavaFX >> and that it will still be around for a while. Can somebody please do that? >> >> Dirk
