Yes, just a site with code on github would be enough, for example. Without any publicity or endorsement to any particular company.
Jfxtras does this: http://jfxtras.org/ and the code of the site is on github repository: https://github.com/JFXtras/jfxtras.github.com Outside of this, Gluon can still offer consultancy, payed support for javafx, javafx based products, etc. I think this is the type of decisions that should be discussed among the community before any action is taken. Cheers, On Sat, Sep 1, 2018 at 2:05 PM Werner Van Belle <wer...@yellowcouch.org> wrote: > Hello, > > Just put it on github and let people fork it however they want. > That would be "open". > > Werner,- > > PS: I _am_ seriously pissed at Oracle about this shit. I spend the last > years specializing in their newest technology 'which they would never > ever drop' and now they just drop it. > > On Sat, 2018-09-01 at 22:38 +1000, John-Val Rose wrote: > > Hi Pedro, > > > > I just happen to agree with you in this issue. > > > > But, out of all the possible new custodians of JavaFX, I have to say > > that I am always in awe of what Johan and Gluon have already > > contributed and accomplished. > > > > So how do we ensue that OpenJFX is truly “open”? > > > > I agree that even though Gluon are doing a fantastic job, JavaFX > > should not be a “Gluon product”. > > > > I think it’s a great move for Oracle to basically relinquish control > > of JavaFX - but to whom? > > > > I’m not familiar enough with FOSS projects to offer any sage advice > > but I totally agree that a “community” project has to be as open to > > everyone as possible and no person or entity should have a commercial > > advantage over others. > > > > So, basically I like your question, I don’t believe the current > > scenario is satisfactory but unfortunately I confess I can’t offer > > any suggestions of better scenarios. > > > > Graciously, > > > > John-Val Rose > > > > > > > > On 1 Sep 2018, at 22:00, Pedro Duque Vieira <pedro.duquevieira@gmai > > > l.com> wrote: > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > For JavaFX to start being, truly, a community project it is > > > important that > > > it is perceived as a real community effort. Right now it's starting > > > to look > > > more like it's changing hands, from being an Oracle project to > > > being a > > > Gluon project. > > > > > > I don't have anything against Gluon, I'd say the same if for > > > instance, > > > instead of Gluon it was JPro or Karakun, or whatever... > > > > > > Hosting the JavaFX docs, builds, installations, etc on a company > > > owned site > > > or a company endorsed site sounds like a really bad idea. Which is > > > what's > > > happening right now. If it's to be a community project it should be > > > owned > > > by the community as a whole. As well as being perceived to be owned > > > by the > > > community as a whole. > > > > > > Being a one company project will deter the contributions of other > > > players > > > in the JavaFX space. Other players that also offer consultancy > > > services, > > > and JavaFX products will have a big disadvantage towards the > > > company > > > hosting the JavaFX assets and downloads. At the very minimum think > > > about > > > the huge advantage this company will have in publicity when > > > compared to the > > > others. > > > > > > A community project is a project where various players join efforts > > > to > > > mutually benefit each other. As soon as this starts being a project > > > that's > > > benefiting one particular company more than the others it ceases to > > > be a > > > community project. > > > > > > I don't think that anyone would like to join in on the efforts in > > > this > > > scenario. > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > > > -- Pedro Duque Vieira - https://www.pixelduke.com
