[Put this to the list - we should look like active development community :-)]
I decided to put this on dev list - there is no secrecy, and people may be interested. I agree with your point on RTMP. Well, actually after your last letter, I stopped porting for three weeks. Yesterday we restarted the porting effort. We all agreed that gradual changes to Openmeetings are better. After implementing video we may start thinking of migrating the whiteboard because there was resent. Still somehow the guy who started porting decided to use my straightforward approach. I was not assertive because it is important for anyone to get some time for accommodation. Timur reported today about his very good progress (still I'm not sure if he correctly estimated his progress). We will discuss your letter tomorrow on the meeting and think twice. -- With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями, Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов, http://dataved.ru/ +7 916 562 8095 2011/6/9 [email protected] <[email protected]>: > Hi Alexei, > > actually you _could_ have build AS3 with the existing source already, > the question was just if the things work better by using later > OpenLaszlo version. And that is why I thought you've merged yet > another OL-Version into trunk. > > As I have explained earlier: > Without a working rtmpconnection in AS3, OpenLaszlo-AS3 migration > makes ZERO sense. > And there is actually no reason to work and modify any sources in the > main trunk yet. You can make a working rtmp-connection sample in a > separated brunch or in your local installation that has the features > which we need in AS3. Once that is done actually migration makes > sense. > > And as I have proposed in another mail some weeks again, from my point > of view only Audio/Video of AS3 is of interest. Nothing else. > So what I have proposed then (13. Mai 2011 09:30): > > just a few words about AS3 migration: > Instead of migrating all the code, my idea is more simple. We just > make a overlay object and put it via z-Index on top. The overlay > object we code that in Flex. The overlay object acts a > video-container. Same as the video container we have now for each > room. Actually you just proxy the events from and to the current > *video_container* currently _embeded_, via Java-Script, to the > external video-container. > The new video container would be made with Flex. And we would embed it > similar as the Java-Applet that we have currently dynamically included > for the SIP integration. > > This solves a lot of issues: > 1) We do not need to re-implement all functions from openlaszlo AS2 to > AS3. Cause actually the only reason to migrate is that Audio/Video > has/could have some feature in the future that are only available in > AS3. > 2) We separate the audio/video from the rest of the application, so > you could code the Audio/Video part eve with anything else then Flex > (for example Servlet or Silverlight or ... whatever comes up in the > future ... maybe native HTML5 I don't know) ... and you could also > migrate the rest of the application instead of AS3 to DHTML. > 3) We could start right now with coding the overlay container in Flex, > so the effort to migrate is minimum. > > The overlay Flex container needs to be 100% over the hole application > and a transparent background, where it is possible to click through. I > am not 100% sure that this is possible to do with flex, but I think it > should be at least possible with native Flash IDE/CS4. > > > Please read that through carefully ... > > > Sebastian > > 2011/6/9 Alexei Fedotov <[email protected]>: >> I was confused, because I committed all OL jars required for AS2, some >> jars for AS3 were not committed. >> -- >> With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями, >> Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов, >> http://dataved.ru/ >> +7 916 562 8095 >> >> >> >> >> On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 6:28 PM, Alexei Fedotov <[email protected]> >> wrote: >>> I misunderstand your first question. I thought you decided to start >>> AS3 porting as well. >>> >>> Do we need openlaszlo server? We just use "solo" mode, static compiler >>> is enough. This makes debugger a bit less capable, but the recent >>> problems with the debugger were not related to OL. >>> >>> As for migration to AS3, we restarted it just yesterday. Maybe we >>> should go on the list and discuss it a bit. I shared your mail on >>> transparent layers to Mikhail BTW. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями, >>> Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов, >>> http://dataved.ru/ >>> +7 916 562 8095 >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 6:23 PM, Alexei Fedotov <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>>> Will try to fix problems today. >>>> -- >>>> With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями, >>>> Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов, >>>> http://dataved.ru/ >>>> +7 916 562 8095 >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> 2011/6/9 [email protected] <[email protected]>: >>>>> well but at the moment we have a status in the SVN where building >>>>> inside Eclipse is actually impossible. >>>>> >>>>> There is no openlaszlo server anymore in WEB-INF/lib. Even the ant >>>>> build file points to this new directory of *openlaszlo* that you've >>>>> created. >>>>> >>>>> Have you been able to fix the RTMP-Connection Issues with openlaszlo >>>>> in AS3? Cause as I have explained, for me there is no reason to >>>>> migrate to AS3 except for audio/video. >>>>> >>>>> Otherwise I would suggest you will merge the openlaszlo version that >>>>> you are using now into WebContent/WEB-INF/lib again so that we do not >>>>> get all those emails about broken build process in Eclipse anymore. >>>>> >>>>> Sebastian >>>>> >>>>> 2011/6/9 Alexei Fedotov <[email protected]>: >>>>>> [added Mikhail] >>>>>> >>>>>> Hi Sebastain, >>>>>> >>>>>> 1. We already have completed a good amount of migration, and another ~ >>>>>> month remained. We need to avoid double work here. >>>>>> 2. Yes, we have special OpenLaszlo setting for that, (and we use OL >>>>>> from trunk BTW because 4.9 does not work). >>>>>> >>>>>> I will commit some changes required for AS3 probably this weekend. >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями, >>>>>> Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов, >>>>>> http://dataved.ru/ >>>>>> +7 916 562 8095 >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 6:08 PM, [email protected] >>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> Hi Alexei, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> while you have been trying to migrate to the latest version of >>>>>>> openlaszlo to compile with AS3 did you delete any JARs or files? Cause >>>>>>> it seems like some files are now missing. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Sebastian >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> Sebastian Wagner >>>>>>> http://www.webbase-design.de >>>>>>> http://openmeetings.googlecode.com >>>>>>> http://www.wagner-sebastian.com >>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Sebastian Wagner >>>>> http://www.webbase-design.de >>>>> http://openmeetings.googlecode.com >>>>> http://www.wagner-sebastian.com >>>>> [email protected] >>>>> >>>> >>> >> > > > > -- > Sebastian Wagner > http://www.webbase-design.de > http://openmeetings.googlecode.com > http://www.wagner-sebastian.com > [email protected] > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "OpenMeetings developers" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/openmeetings-dev?hl=en.
