ARGG##

And I think you'r migration has broken the JavaScript communication
with the SIP-Applet.
Calls to the browser just return *undefined* now.


Sebastian

2011/6/9 Alexei Fedotov <[email protected]>:
> [Put this to the list - we should look like active development community :-)]
>
> I decided to put this on dev list - there is no secrecy, and people
> may be interested. I agree with your point on RTMP. Well, actually
> after your last letter, I stopped porting for three weeks. Yesterday
> we restarted the porting effort.
>
> We all agreed that gradual changes to Openmeetings are better. After
> implementing video we may start thinking of migrating the whiteboard
> because there was resent. Still somehow the guy who started porting
> decided to use my straightforward approach.
>
> I was not assertive because it is important for anyone to get some
> time for accommodation. Timur reported today about his very good
> progress (still I'm not sure if he correctly estimated his progress).
> We will discuss your letter tomorrow on the meeting and think twice.
>
>
> --
> With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями,
> Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов,
> http://dataved.ru/
> +7 916 562 8095
>
>
>
>
> 2011/6/9 [email protected] <[email protected]>:
>> Hi Alexei,
>>
>> actually you _could_ have build AS3 with the existing source already,
>> the question was just if the things work better by using later
>> OpenLaszlo version. And that is why I thought you've merged yet
>> another OL-Version into trunk.
>>
>> As I have explained earlier:
>> Without a working rtmpconnection in AS3, OpenLaszlo-AS3 migration
>> makes ZERO sense.
>> And there is actually no reason to work and modify any sources in the
>> main trunk yet. You can make a working rtmp-connection sample in a
>> separated brunch or in your local installation that has the features
>> which we need in AS3. Once that is done actually migration makes
>> sense.
>>
>> And as I have proposed in another mail some weeks again, from my point
>> of view only Audio/Video of AS3 is of interest. Nothing else.
>> So what I have proposed then (13. Mai 2011 09:30):
>>
>> just a few words about AS3 migration:
>> Instead of migrating all the code, my idea is more simple. We just
>> make a overlay object and put it via z-Index on top. The overlay
>> object we code that in Flex. The overlay object acts a
>> video-container. Same as the video container we have now for each
>> room. Actually you just proxy the events from and to the current
>> *video_container* currently _embeded_, via Java-Script, to the
>> external video-container.
>> The new video container would be made with Flex. And we would embed it
>> similar as the Java-Applet that we have currently dynamically included
>> for the SIP integration.
>>
>> This solves a lot of issues:
>> 1) We do not need to re-implement all functions from openlaszlo AS2 to
>> AS3. Cause actually the only reason to migrate is that Audio/Video
>> has/could have some feature in the future that are only available in
>> AS3.
>> 2) We separate the audio/video from the rest of the application, so
>> you could code the Audio/Video part eve with anything else then Flex
>> (for example Servlet or Silverlight or ... whatever comes up in the
>> future ... maybe native HTML5 I don't know) ... and you could also
>> migrate the rest of the application instead of AS3 to DHTML.
>> 3) We could start right now with coding the overlay container in Flex,
>> so the effort to migrate is minimum.
>>
>> The overlay Flex container needs to be 100% over the hole application
>> and a transparent background, where it is possible to click through. I
>> am not 100% sure that this is possible to do with flex, but I think it
>> should be at least possible with native Flash IDE/CS4.
>>
>>
>> Please read that through carefully ...
>>
>>
>> Sebastian
>>
>> 2011/6/9 Alexei Fedotov <[email protected]>:
>>> I was confused, because I committed all OL jars required for AS2, some
>>> jars for AS3 were not committed.
>>> --
>>> With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями,
>>> Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов,
>>> http://dataved.ru/
>>> +7 916 562 8095
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 6:28 PM, Alexei Fedotov <[email protected]> 
>>> wrote:
>>>> I misunderstand your first question. I thought you decided to start
>>>> AS3 porting as well.
>>>>
>>>> Do we need openlaszlo server? We just use "solo" mode, static compiler
>>>> is enough. This makes debugger a bit less capable, but the recent
>>>> problems with the debugger were not related to OL.
>>>>
>>>> As for migration to AS3, we restarted it just yesterday. Maybe we
>>>> should go on the list and discuss it a bit. I shared your mail on
>>>> transparent layers to Mikhail BTW.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями,
>>>> Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов,
>>>> http://dataved.ru/
>>>> +7 916 562 8095
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 6:23 PM, Alexei Fedotov <[email protected]> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> Will try to fix problems today.
>>>>> --
>>>>> With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями,
>>>>> Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов,
>>>>> http://dataved.ru/
>>>>> +7 916 562 8095
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 2011/6/9 [email protected] <[email protected]>:
>>>>>> well but at the moment we have a status in the SVN where building
>>>>>> inside Eclipse is actually impossible.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> There is no openlaszlo server anymore in WEB-INF/lib. Even the ant
>>>>>> build file points to this new directory of *openlaszlo* that you've
>>>>>> created.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Have you been able to fix the RTMP-Connection Issues with openlaszlo
>>>>>> in AS3? Cause as I have explained, for me there is no reason to
>>>>>> migrate to AS3 except for audio/video.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Otherwise I would suggest you will merge the openlaszlo version that
>>>>>> you are using now into WebContent/WEB-INF/lib again so that we do not
>>>>>> get all those emails about broken build process in Eclipse anymore.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sebastian
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2011/6/9 Alexei Fedotov <[email protected]>:
>>>>>>> [added Mikhail]
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Sebastain,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 1. We already have completed a good amount of migration, and another ~
>>>>>>> month remained. We need to avoid double work here.
>>>>>>> 2. Yes, we have special OpenLaszlo setting for that, (and we use OL
>>>>>>> from trunk BTW because 4.9 does not work).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I will commit some changes required for AS3 probably this weekend.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями,
>>>>>>> Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов,
>>>>>>> http://dataved.ru/
>>>>>>> +7 916 562 8095
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 6:08 PM, [email protected]
>>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>> Hi Alexei,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> while you have been trying to migrate to the latest version of
>>>>>>>> openlaszlo to compile with AS3 did you delete any JARs or files? Cause
>>>>>>>> it seems like some files are now missing.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Sebastian
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> Sebastian Wagner
>>>>>>>> http://www.webbase-design.de
>>>>>>>> http://openmeetings.googlecode.com
>>>>>>>> http://www.wagner-sebastian.com
>>>>>>>> [email protected]
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Sebastian Wagner
>>>>>> http://www.webbase-design.de
>>>>>> http://openmeetings.googlecode.com
>>>>>> http://www.wagner-sebastian.com
>>>>>> [email protected]
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Sebastian Wagner
>> http://www.webbase-design.de
>> http://openmeetings.googlecode.com
>> http://www.wagner-sebastian.com
>> [email protected]
>>
>



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http://www.webbase-design.de
http://openmeetings.googlecode.com
http://www.wagner-sebastian.com
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