Ok,

so maybe you can add that Audio/Video client in a separated branch.
Once its done we can see how to merge that easily to trunk or which
changes in trunk are needed to get it running.

Sebastian

2011/6/10 Alexei Fedotov <[email protected]>:
> [a small update]
>
> Sebastian, we have agreed to port video only to AS3 first as you
> suggested. Having separate video component has some other nice
> consequences like choosing dynamically between Adobe Flash Video and
> WebRTC from Google.
>
>
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> Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов,
> http://dataved.ru/
> +7 916 562 8095
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 1:26 AM, Alexei Fedotov
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Have not managed the fix. Will try to do it tomorrow.
>> --
>> With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями,
>> Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов,
>> http://dataved.ru/
>> +7 916 562 8095
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> 2011/6/9 [email protected] <[email protected]>:
>>> yes,
>>>
>>> I have fixed lz.Browser for the SIP Applet. However after some
>>> rethinking I did discover that there are some more source-files to
>>> change.
>>>
>>> Those are even more important, for example in the registration form, a
>>> call to get the timezone of the user's browser, to set the correct
>>> default timezone in the sign-up form. Some in the invitation window.
>>>
>>> You can search our LZX-Source files for lz.Browser.callJS to get an 
>>> impression.
>>> Its not a big thing, I will fix those tomorrow.
>>>
>>> However, we should really check the rest of the application, this is
>>> likely to be NOT the last huzzle because of the openlaszlo version
>>> update and those should be fixed before we release a new version.
>>>
>>> Sebastian
>>>
>>> 2011/6/9 Alexei Fedotov <[email protected]>:
>>>> Sebastian, thanks!
>>>>
>>>> I tested things manually. AFAIK for OpenJPA Vasily implemented some
>>>> automatic tests. More tests, less fails like this one.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями,
>>>> Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов,
>>>> http://dataved.ru/
>>>> +7 916 562 8095
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 2011/6/9 [email protected] <[email protected]>:
>>>>> the problem with the JavaScript not beeing called is fixed with r3783.
>>>>>
>>>>> However, I did now remove references to OpenLaszlo's
>>>>> lz.Browser-Component completely and use native Actionscript2 functions
>>>>> to call external JavaScript.
>>>>>
>>>>> Sebastian
>>>>>
>>>>> 2011/6/9 [email protected] <[email protected]>:
>>>>>> *Debug works when there is html around swf. If I add debug=true to
>>>>>> main.lzx it works, because the servlet returns dynamic page where
>>>>>> main.swf is embedded.*
>>>>>>
>>>>>> hmm not in my case. Maybe we've misunderstood each other:
>>>>>> The client will not build in Eclipse => It is impossible. There is no
>>>>>> lps.x.x.x.jar in the WBE-INF/lib folder, so how should that work? It
>>>>>> cannot generate any SWF (at least the swf8 swf's) without the
>>>>>> lps.x.x.x.jar no matter if debug=true or not.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sebastian
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2011/6/9 [email protected] <[email protected]>:
>>>>>>> Hi Alexei,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> well my complaints are basically that there are quite a few things
>>>>>>> that needs to be tested after you did migrate to the new version of
>>>>>>> openlaszlo.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It is absolutely NOT the case that you can replace one openlaszlo
>>>>>>> version with another and expect that all features work like they did.
>>>>>>> I had quite a long list of things that went one after each iteration.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> For example suddenly the whiteboard stopped working as click events
>>>>>>> didn't work with views that have the attribute *catchbitmap* (or
>>>>>>> similar name) and problems with drawview and so on. Or suddenly the
>>>>>>> cpu was at 100% everytime you've drawn a certain shape.
>>>>>>> You actually encountered sth. similar => The
>>>>>>> rich-text-editor/component just didn't work anymore. So you removed
>>>>>>> that feature.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You really need to go through actually all basic features and verify
>>>>>>> all whiteboard tools.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> That is why I wanted to keep the old version and build with that
>>>>>>> before we migrate to yet another openlaszlo version.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We are now in a situation with a lot of new features in trunk but with
>>>>>>> a client build with a different openlaszlo version that needs to be
>>>>>>> tested in detail. I would like to make a new release in the coming
>>>>>>> days.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So from my point of view your list should be:
>>>>>>> 1) Fix Eclipse build
>>>>>>> 2) Test the features of the application with the new OpenLaszlo
>>>>>>> Version that you've migrated.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You can forget about the JavaScript communication I will take care of
>>>>>>> that cause I need it by tomorrow.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sebastian
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2011/6/9 Alexei Fedotov <[email protected]>:
>>>>>>>> So I will fix:
>>>>>>>> 1) Eclipse build,
>>>>>>>> 2) Javascript communication to SIP applet.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Debug works when there is html around swf. If I add debug=true to
>>>>>>>> main.lzx it works, because the servlet returns dynamic page where
>>>>>>>> main.swf is embedded.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями,
>>>>>>>> Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов,
>>>>>>>> http://dataved.ru/
>>>>>>>> +7 916 562 8095
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 2011/6/9 [email protected] <[email protected]>:
>>>>>>>>> ARGG##
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> And I think you'r migration has broken the JavaScript communication
>>>>>>>>> with the SIP-Applet.
>>>>>>>>> Calls to the browser just return *undefined* now.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Sebastian
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 2011/6/9 Alexei Fedotov <[email protected]>:
>>>>>>>>>> [Put this to the list - we should look like active development 
>>>>>>>>>> community :-)]
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I decided to put this on dev list - there is no secrecy, and people
>>>>>>>>>> may be interested. I agree with your point on RTMP. Well, actually
>>>>>>>>>> after your last letter, I stopped porting for three weeks. Yesterday
>>>>>>>>>> we restarted the porting effort.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> We all agreed that gradual changes to Openmeetings are better. After
>>>>>>>>>> implementing video we may start thinking of migrating the whiteboard
>>>>>>>>>> because there was resent. Still somehow the guy who started porting
>>>>>>>>>> decided to use my straightforward approach.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I was not assertive because it is important for anyone to get some
>>>>>>>>>> time for accommodation. Timur reported today about his very good
>>>>>>>>>> progress (still I'm not sure if he correctly estimated his progress).
>>>>>>>>>> We will discuss your letter tomorrow on the meeting and think twice.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>> With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями,
>>>>>>>>>> Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов,
>>>>>>>>>> http://dataved.ru/
>>>>>>>>>> +7 916 562 8095
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 2011/6/9 [email protected] <[email protected]>:
>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Alexei,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> actually you _could_ have build AS3 with the existing source 
>>>>>>>>>>> already,
>>>>>>>>>>> the question was just if the things work better by using later
>>>>>>>>>>> OpenLaszlo version. And that is why I thought you've merged yet
>>>>>>>>>>> another OL-Version into trunk.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> As I have explained earlier:
>>>>>>>>>>> Without a working rtmpconnection in AS3, OpenLaszlo-AS3 migration
>>>>>>>>>>> makes ZERO sense.
>>>>>>>>>>> And there is actually no reason to work and modify any sources in 
>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>> main trunk yet. You can make a working rtmp-connection sample in a
>>>>>>>>>>> separated brunch or in your local installation that has the features
>>>>>>>>>>> which we need in AS3. Once that is done actually migration makes
>>>>>>>>>>> sense.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> And as I have proposed in another mail some weeks again, from my 
>>>>>>>>>>> point
>>>>>>>>>>> of view only Audio/Video of AS3 is of interest. Nothing else.
>>>>>>>>>>> So what I have proposed then (13. Mai 2011 09:30):
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> just a few words about AS3 migration:
>>>>>>>>>>> Instead of migrating all the code, my idea is more simple. We just
>>>>>>>>>>> make a overlay object and put it via z-Index on top. The overlay
>>>>>>>>>>> object we code that in Flex. The overlay object acts a
>>>>>>>>>>> video-container. Same as the video container we have now for each
>>>>>>>>>>> room. Actually you just proxy the events from and to the current
>>>>>>>>>>> *video_container* currently _embeded_, via Java-Script, to the
>>>>>>>>>>> external video-container.
>>>>>>>>>>> The new video container would be made with Flex. And we would embed 
>>>>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>>>> similar as the Java-Applet that we have currently dynamically 
>>>>>>>>>>> included
>>>>>>>>>>> for the SIP integration.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> This solves a lot of issues:
>>>>>>>>>>> 1) We do not need to re-implement all functions from openlaszlo AS2 
>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>> AS3. Cause actually the only reason to migrate is that Audio/Video
>>>>>>>>>>> has/could have some feature in the future that are only available in
>>>>>>>>>>> AS3.
>>>>>>>>>>> 2) We separate the audio/video from the rest of the application, so
>>>>>>>>>>> you could code the Audio/Video part eve with anything else then Flex
>>>>>>>>>>> (for example Servlet or Silverlight or ... whatever comes up in the
>>>>>>>>>>> future ... maybe native HTML5 I don't know) ... and you could also
>>>>>>>>>>> migrate the rest of the application instead of AS3 to DHTML.
>>>>>>>>>>> 3) We could start right now with coding the overlay container in 
>>>>>>>>>>> Flex,
>>>>>>>>>>> so the effort to migrate is minimum.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> The overlay Flex container needs to be 100% over the hole 
>>>>>>>>>>> application
>>>>>>>>>>> and a transparent background, where it is possible to click 
>>>>>>>>>>> through. I
>>>>>>>>>>> am not 100% sure that this is possible to do with flex, but I think 
>>>>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>>>> should be at least possible with native Flash IDE/CS4.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Please read that through carefully ...
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Sebastian
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> 2011/6/9 Alexei Fedotov <[email protected]>:
>>>>>>>>>>>> I was confused, because I committed all OL jars required for AS2, 
>>>>>>>>>>>> some
>>>>>>>>>>>> jars for AS3 were not committed.
>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>> With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями,
>>>>>>>>>>>> Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов,
>>>>>>>>>>>> http://dataved.ru/
>>>>>>>>>>>> +7 916 562 8095
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 6:28 PM, Alexei Fedotov 
>>>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I misunderstand your first question. I thought you decided to 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> start
>>>>>>>>>>>>> AS3 porting as well.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Do we need openlaszlo server? We just use "solo" mode, static 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> compiler
>>>>>>>>>>>>> is enough. This makes debugger a bit less capable, but the recent
>>>>>>>>>>>>> problems with the debugger were not related to OL.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> As for migration to AS3, we restarted it just yesterday. Maybe we
>>>>>>>>>>>>> should go on the list and discuss it a bit. I shared your mail on
>>>>>>>>>>>>> transparent layers to Mikhail BTW.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>> With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://dataved.ru/
>>>>>>>>>>>>> +7 916 562 8095
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 6:23 PM, Alexei Fedotov 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Will try to fix problems today.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://dataved.ru/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +7 916 562 8095
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2011/6/9 [email protected] <[email protected]>:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> well but at the moment we have a status in the SVN where 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> building
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> inside Eclipse is actually impossible.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There is no openlaszlo server anymore in WEB-INF/lib. Even the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ant
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> build file points to this new directory of *openlaszlo* that 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you've
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> created.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Have you been able to fix the RTMP-Connection Issues with 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> openlaszlo
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in AS3? Cause as I have explained, for me there is no reason to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> migrate to AS3 except for audio/video.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Otherwise I would suggest you will merge the openlaszlo version 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you are using now into WebContent/WEB-INF/lib again so that we 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> do not
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> get all those emails about broken build process in Eclipse 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anymore.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sebastian
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2011/6/9 Alexei Fedotov <[email protected]>:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [added Mikhail]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Sebastain,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1. We already have completed a good amount of migration, and 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> another ~
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> month remained. We need to avoid double work here.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2. Yes, we have special OpenLaszlo setting for that, (and we 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> use OL
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from trunk BTW because 4.9 does not work).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I will commit some changes required for AS3 probably this 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> weekend.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://dataved.ru/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +7 916 562 8095
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 6:08 PM, [email protected]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Alexei,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> while you have been trying to migrate to the latest version of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> openlaszlo to compile with AS3 did you delete any JARs or 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> files? Cause
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it seems like some files are now missing.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sebastian
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sebastian Wagner
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.webbase-design.de
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://openmeetings.googlecode.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.wagner-sebastian.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sebastian Wagner
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.webbase-design.de
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://openmeetings.googlecode.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.wagner-sebastian.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>> Sebastian Wagner
>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.webbase-design.de
>>>>>>>>>>> http://openmeetings.googlecode.com
>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.wagner-sebastian.com
>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>> Sebastian Wagner
>>>>>>>>> http://www.webbase-design.de
>>>>>>>>> http://openmeetings.googlecode.com
>>>>>>>>> http://www.wagner-sebastian.com
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