On Sep 4, 2007, at 7:50 AM, Claes Mogren wrote:

I call bullshit on this signal restriction. How come they've successfully had wifi on planes without any problems?
Have you tried all WiFi devices on all planes?

And I know that people have their phones on all the time while flying and I've never heard that it has caused a crash or even been noticed in any way. Can't imagine that there's any GSM signal to pick up a 30000ft anyway when you move at 800km/h.

Note that you're typically not moving at 800km/h relative to all towers. In fact, if you can see a tower (LOS), then its likely not in front of, or behind the plane, so the
relative velocity could be quite low.

Also, if GPS is bad for the planes, how come the US is going to use it to navigate the planes? (http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/09/04/ gps_satnav_air_traffic_for_america/ )

What if your GPS interferes with their GPS, because it happens to have a broken ground on the shield on its oscillator?

(see previous message).


Anyway, back to OpenMoko. I agree that it's good to have the option to turn all wireless communication off on boot, with a timeout of 10 seconds or so. Default should be the same settings as you had when you turned off though.

Regards,
 Claes Mogren

On 9/4/07, Richi Plana <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On Tue, 2007-09-04 at 10:27 -0700, John Seghers wrote:
> Part of the process of receiving signals involves heterodyning-- basically > mixing a received signal with lower intermediate frequencies (IFs) to > amplify the desired actual signal, while making the carrier signal something > easier to work with. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heterodyne for a very
> basic description.

Fascinating. So "passive receivers" really aren't? Or are there classes
of receivers which are (no amplification or very sensitive pickups)?
Prolly off-topic, but I sure am curious. Are there no radar detectors
which don't give off their presence?
--

Richi Plana




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