Interesting discussion. I think this: "The driving truth is that if we don't grow, we will shrink and die.”
and this "The average rate of GDP growth in countries with shrinking working-age populations is only 1.5%.” (Emphasis mine) are misnomers. This idea “growth is good" is aggressively promoted because the economic systems that support it (e.g. systems based on consumerism), depend on growth as a metric for success. What it doesn’t take into account is the happiness and well-being of the people inside the system. It’s been generally established that countries with lower GDP have equal or higher levels of happiness compared with countries with high GDP. If we had data(!) we could start looking at this at an organizational level. Greenpeace is doing a research and strategy around mindsets that are prevalent in our society. The “infinite growth is possible and good” mind set is one that the ecological movement is desperately trying to change as the growth-driven consumerism is the root cause of almost all environmental issues. Maybe it’s better to say “If we don’t change, we will shrink and die.” Even that might depend – if you think about tribal cultures that stayed the same way for hundreds and hundreds of years, only to die out when change was introduced. None of this is a dichotomy, of course. We’re a group of people who are hyper aware of the nuance (this pleases me :) Rands wrote an article in 2014 that I’ve shared a thousand times. It’s specifically about cultural identity, the shifting of culture when new people are introduced, and the fear that can elicit – He called it “Old Guard, New Guard”. http://randsinrepose.com/archives/the-old-guard/ <http://randsinrepose.com/archives/the-old-guard/> —laura Laura Hilliger Zythepsary (part of the We Are Open Co-op <http://weareopen.coop/>) @epilepticrabbit <http://twitter.com/epilepticrabbit> > On Mar 24, 2017, at 12:44 PM, Sam Knuth <[email protected]> wrote: > > Thank you, Brook for keeping us engaged with deep topics! > > I like the comparison/contrast of our work on "open" culture with what's > happening in the global political climate right now. I'm surprised I hadn't > made this connection myself now that I think about it. I see a lot of > parallels. Working in an organization that has been "open" since its > founding, it does become part of the identity of the people working in the > organization. But, as the organization grows, and welcomes more and more new > people ("immigrants" - never made that analogy before), we see a lot of fears > among some that our culture will change or will become "like them" instead of > "them" becoming "like us". Other people welcome the newcomers and embrace > what we can learn from them, accepting that how we've always done things > might not be the best way. The driving truth is that if we don't grow, we > will shrink and die. In a company, it's easier to convince people of this > truth, and people can more easily leave if they really don't like the > direction we're heading (whereas as much as liberal American's joke about > moving to Canada, doing so is actually quite difficult). > > As I'm writing this and thinking about the comparison, I'm seeing a lot of > similar challenges but not easy answers or ways to apply our learnings to > broader society or public policy at a national level. My personal feeling > here is that looking at this kind of data doesn't sway people. Companies, I > think, are much more receptive to convincing data than citizens. It's more > about how people feel in relation to deeply ingrained cultural identity. > Those feelings are so strong that they result in the election of leaders who > take an extreme stance on one end of the spectrum or the other. > > Great food for thought! > > Sam > > On Thu, Mar 23, 2017 at 10:01 AM, Brook Manville <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > Dear Open enthusiasts....recent opinion piece in WSJ by columnist Bret > Stephens caught my eye (below)--talking about immigration, open borders, > greater diversity and innovation; and imply such things should be more part > of today's policy debates (but aren't). There are some "meta" themes about > "open" at the national level that might deserve more attention among us. At a > minimum, it makes for some interesting compare and contrast discussion, e.g. > how much of the culture-building implied by best open organizations should > be/could be applied to a nation's public policy? What is the data about > innovation and other measures of "good" between companies that are more open > versus those that are less? etc...Regards > > Other People’s Babies’ > If the U.S. slipped into demographic decline like Japan, it would tear itself > apart. > Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe with President Trump in West Palm Beach, > Fla., Feb. 10. PHOTO: ASSOCIATED PRESS > <https://www.wsj.com/articles/other-peoples-babies-1490050955> > By BRET STEPHENS > March 20, 2017 7:02 p.m. ET > 786 COMMENTS > <https://www.wsj.com/articles/other-peoples-babies-1490050955#livefyre-toggle-SB10780801779306074119304583034393448048174> > Tokyo > > Japan is an excellent place to test the proposition that countries do better > with low levels of immigration. In a land of 127 million people, there are > just over two million foreign residents, and only a third of them are here > for the long term. The number of illegal immigrants, which peaked at a modest > 300,000 in the early 1990s, is down by 80%. > > As for refugees, in 2016, Tokyo entertained 10,000 requests > <http://mainichi.jp/english/articles/20170211/p2g/00m/0dm/008000c> for > asylum. It accepted a grand total of 28. Steve Bannon would smile. > > > > > > The result, say immigration restrictionists, is plain to see. Japan’s crime > and drug-use rates are famously low. Life expectancy is famously high. > Japanese students put their American peers to shame on international tests. > The unemployment rate clocks in at 3.1%. All this is supposed to be a > function of a homogenous society with a high degree of cultural cohesion—the > antithesis of cacophonous, multiethnic America. > > Just one problem: The Japanese have lost their appetite for reproduction. To > steal a line from Steve King, the GOP congressman from Iowa, the only way > they can save their civilization is with “somebody else’s babies.” > > Japan’s population shrank by nearly a million between 2010 and 2015, the > first absolute decline since census-taking began in the 1920s. On current > trend <http://www.ipss.go.jp/site-ad/index_english/esuikei/gh2401e.asp> the > population will fall to 97 million by the middle of the century. Barely 10% > of Japanese will be children. The rest of the population will divide almost > evenly between working-age adults and the elderly. > > Imagine yourself as a 35-year-old Japanese salary man. You can expect that an > ever-larger share of your paycheck will go to the government to fund the > pensions and health care of your parents—who, at 70, can reasonably expect to > live another 10 or 15 years, and who aren’t likely to vote for politicians > promising to strip their entitlements. > > Being Japanese, you were raised to make financial sacrifices for your elders, > even if it means not having children of your own. Besides, it’s hard to want > children with the economy in such bad shape. As Morgan Stanley > <http://quotes.wsj.com/MS>’s Ruchir Sharma has noted > <https://www.foreignaffairs.com/articles/world/2016-02-15/demographics-stagnation>, > lousy demographics mean a lousy economy: The average rate of GDP growth in > countries with shrinking working-age populations is only 1.5%. In 2016, > Japan’s growth rate was 1%—and that was a relatively good year by recent > standards. > > What if the government paid you to have babies? Alas, along with millions of > your countrymen, you suffer from what the Japanese call > <https://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/oct/20/young-people-japan-stopped-having-sex> > “celibacy syndrome” and aren’t interested in sex, never mind procreation. > You’re also unhappy: In 2016, Japan ranked 53rd on the U.N.’s World Happiness > Report, a notch above Kazakhstan but below El Salvador and Uzbekistan. > > So Japan is in trouble, and the government knows it. Prime Minister Shinzo > Abe has tinkered with formulas to bring in lower-skilled temporary workers > for housecleaning and farm jobs, and he has promoted various tax breaks and > subsidies to ease the burden of raising children and caring for aging parents. > > But whatever their other benefits, “pro-family” policies won’t reverse the > demographic trend. Only large-scale immigration can do that, and the Japanese > won’t countenance it. The flip side of cohesion is exclusion. The consequence > of exclusion is decline. > > Which brings us back to Mr. King and the U.S. immigration debates. A decade > ago, America’s fertility rate, at 2.12 children for every woman, was just > above the replacement rate. That meant there could be modest population > growth without immigration. But the fertility rate has since fallen: It’s now > below replacement and at an all-time low > <http://blogs.wsj.com/economics/2016/06/07/behind-the-ongoing-u-s-baby-bust-in-5-charts/>. > > Without immigration, our demographic destiny would become Japanese. But our > culture wouldn’t, leaving us with the worst of both worlds: economic > stagnation without social stability. Multiethnic America would tear itself to > pieces fighting over redistribution rights to the shrinking national pie. > > This doesn’t have to be our fate. Though it may be news to Mr. King, > immigrants aren’t a threat to American civilization. They are our > civilization—bearers of a forward-looking notion of identity based on what > people wish to become, not who they once were. Among those immigrants are 30% > of all American Nobel Prize winners and the founders of 90 of our Fortune 500 > companies—a figure that more than doubles when you include companies founded > by the children of immigrants. If immigration means change, it forces > dynamism. America is literally unimaginable without it. > > Every virtue has its defect and vice versa. The Japanese are in the process > of discovering that the social values that once helped launch their > development—loyalty, self-sacrifice, harmony—now inhibit it. Americans may > need reminding that the culture of openness about which conservatives so > often complain is our abiding strength. Openness to different ideas, foreign > goods and new people. And their babies—who, whatever else Mr. King might > think, are also made in God’s image. > > Write [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>. > > > On Thu, Mar 23, 2017 at 8:10 AM, Bryan Behrenshausen <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > ### Editor's Note ### > > Hi, friends! It's been another exciting, whirlwind week here in OpenOrg > Land. Yesterday, we announced the next book in the Open Organization > book series—this one devoted to open principles in the IT organization. > We're building it the open source way, and (if you missed the > announcement) you can see the links below for more details about getting > involved. > > Today we're publishing the second half of Ajinkya Pawar's two-part > series on open agencies. In this article, Ajinkya lays out a concrete > and specific plan for creating the agency of the future. > > –B > > ### New Today ### > > Ajinkya Pawar: What does an ad agency's source code look like? > > https://opensource.com/open-organization/17/3/how-build-open-ad-agency > <https://opensource.com/open-organization/17/3/how-build-open-ad-agency> > > red.ht/2o855Xy <http://red.ht/2o855Xy> > > Sample social media: > > If an ad agency is to go open source, then what's its source code? > @thejinxedone red.ht/2o855Xy <http://red.ht/2o855Xy> #TheOpenOrg > > .@thejinxedone explains exactly how to build an open ad agency. What are > you waiting for? red.ht/2o855Xy <http://red.ht/2o855Xy> #TheOpenOrg > > .@thejinxedone with five benefits to turning your ad agency into > #TheOpenOrg: red.ht/2o855Xy <http://red.ht/2o855Xy> > > > ### Previously Published ### > > Bryan Behrenshausen: "Help us write the next IT culture book" > > https://opensource.com/open-organization/17/3/announcing-it-culture-book > <https://opensource.com/open-organization/17/3/announcing-it-culture-book> > > red.ht/2nmnfYB <http://red.ht/2nmnfYB> > > First day page views: 157 > > Sample social media: > > Help us write the next great book on IT culture—in the open: > red.ht/2nmnfYB <http://red.ht/2nmnfYB> #TheOpenOrg > > We're writing a book at the intersection of #TheOpenOrg and #IT culture. > You can help: red.ht/2nmnfYB <http://red.ht/2nmnfYB> > > The next book in #TheOpenOrg book series is under active development. > Pull requests welcome: red.ht/2nmnfYB <http://red.ht/2nmnfYB> > > =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= > > Simon Phipps: "7 ways to discuss legal matters with an open community" > > https://opensource.com/open-organization/17/3/legal-matters-community > <https://opensource.com/open-organization/17/3/legal-matters-community> > > First day page views: 131 > > ### Site Stats ### > > Page views yesterday: 753 > Total page views for the month: 12,213 > Page views from newsletter: 106 > > Leaders Manual downloads: 5 > Leaders Manual downloads for the month: 71 > > Catalyst-In-Chief downloads: 4 > Total Catalyst-In-Chief downloads for the month: 30 > > Field Guide downloads: 2 > Total Field Guide downloads for the month: 37 > > ### Social Media Stats ### > > @TheOpenOrg Twitter followers: 3,918 (+1) > @JWhitehurst Twitter followers: 15,204 (+2) > Facebook likes: 526 (+0) > > ### Full Daily Stats ### > > https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/196RzNrhAiHRBcZHtrDYYKy0I9m8Bqa67K9OOPbDxuME/edit?pli=1#gid=46325027 > > <https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/196RzNrhAiHRBcZHtrDYYKy0I9m8Bqa67K9OOPbDxuME/edit?pli=1#gid=46325027> > > _______________________________________________ > Openorg-list mailing list > [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/openorg-list > <https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/openorg-list> > > > > -- > Brook Manville > Principal, Brook Manville LLC > > http://www.brookmanville.com/ <http://www.brookmanville.com/> > Twitter <https://twitter.com/> @brookmanville > blogging at: http://www.forbes.com/sites/brookmanville/ > <http://www.forbes.com/sites/brookmanville/> > > > > _______________________________________________ > Openorg-list mailing list > [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/openorg-list > <https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/openorg-list> > > > > > -- > Sam Knuth > Director, Customer Content Services > Red Hat, Inc > Mobile: +1 612-840-1785 > _______________________________________________ > Openorg-list mailing list > [email protected] > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/openorg-list
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