2010/3/9 Martin Paljak <mar...@paljak.pri.ee>:
> Hello.

Hi Martin,

> Here are some plans that should make opensc-project.org more attractive to 
> both users and developers and also ease the administration burden. Lets 
> collect feedback for a week: please let me know which you feel would be 
> useful or what would absolutely resist.
>
>  - Consolidate opensc-user and opensc-devel to maximize chances of response 
> and reduce confusion. Many questions that appear on opensc-user should either 
> have a FAQ entry (read below about faq) or are actually issues that will 
> require developer attention. Having a single opensc-devel would bring the 
> list of relevant mailing lists down to two (opensc-devel and muscle, many 
> people cross-post to both lists even now) Implementation tactics could be 
> directing people to opensc-devel only and asking existing subscribers 
> re-subscribe or do it automatically with an informational e-mail to 
> subscribers. Looking at subscriber lists reveals that about 1/3 of 
> subscribers on both lists follow the other list as well already.

I don't think -devel and -user lists have the same readers. Many users
have nothing to do on the -devel list. But most if not all the
developers should follow the -user list.

I am not sure I understand "Looking at subscriber lists reveals that
about 1/3 of subscribers on both lists follow the other list as well
already.". What is the "other list"? Muscle list?

>  - Have a clear path of communication: faq -> mailing list -> trac tickets. 
> With a single mailing list there is no question where to post and with a 
> single trac instance there is no question where to file bugs. Hopefully this 
> will re-animate trac tickets as a functioning issue tracking platform that 
> would benefit all parties.

User's questions should go to -user.
A FAQ is a good idea but must be maintained. Do we have a volunteer?

>  - Consolidate trac instances into a) a single OpenSC trac, moving all wiki 
> content and closing other trac-s b) closing all ticket sections in favor of 
> opensc trac but keep the wiki pages (and SVN browser) in read only mode. 
> Reason for this: Information is scattered between several trac-s, which all 
> require administration and housekeeping and is confusing to users as well. 
> None of the smaller trac-s have been actively used for ticket tracking or 
> have any other changes for months. This could be approached on a case-by-case 
> basis as well. No change in SVN repos.

No objections.
For example you can completely close the "GTK Card" project trac.

>  - Remove outdated static html content on opensc-project.org and replace 
> with/forward to the wiki. The fact that trac has been not used lately is due 
> to the registration being closed for a long period because of spam. Open 
> access to wiki and documentation (with a review for spam and such, of course) 
> will hopefully improve it. Fighting for spam is easy (or at least simpler) 
> now that necessary plugins are installed, but I installed them only to opensc 
> trac.
>
> Most importantly, I would like to add a "this is what you should do" style  
> to the current "these are your options, try to figure it out yourself" 
> approach (so that people would not install *everything* they see on 
> opensc-project.org and then start to figure out what and why does not work 
> together.) This is a bit complicated as it is not easy to even suggest a card 
> with a reliable vendor and good support these days, as pointed out by 
> François Pérou. But something that should be done.

Exactly. Maybe we should "hide" some projects to not confuse users.
OpenCT should not be installed in many cases.

Bye

-- 
 Dr. Ludovic Rousseau
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