For the most part I'm only doing the single-system tests for just that purpose 
- testing.  I don't have a multiple-system setup yet,
but I will eventually.  I'm designing what's essentially a cave, with a 
reasonable dataset, so I don't think I need the sort-last
windows.  In fact it looks like sort-first is the way to go for this 
application(?).  In the end the client won't render anything -
It'll do the physics and distribute the scene graph to the various servers to 
render.

My hope is to be able to develop using the appropriate number of processes, 
without regards to which system they're actually running
on.  Barring full screen operation this shouldn't be a problem.  Then when it's 
time to roll things onto multiple platforms, do that
then.  I guess it's not too bad to test using unicast and then enable multicast 
when I'm closer to the shipping configuration.

Also, as I think through it, it doesn't seem too far-fetched to imagine that 
multiple processes reading from the same broadcast port
may not even be supported at the OS level.

Thanks,
Chuck 

   -----Original Message-----
   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
   [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf 
   Of Alex Allen
   Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 5:19 PM
   To: [email protected]
   Subject: Re: [Opensg-users] Cluster multicast
   
   Hi Chuck,
   In my experience with multicast I have found it to be more of a pain 
   than anything. I try and use StreamSock wherever possible. With that 
   being said, clustering is not made to run all on one 
   machine. The whole 
   idea is to be dividing the work load between multiple 
   systems. Things 
   can certainly get messy when you are running a client and 
   two servers on 
   the same machine. If you want to see the true power of 
   clustering load a 
   large model and have several servers running on separate 
   machines. Also, 
   try using the -LS or -LB options, which will run the test using sort 
   last windows and image compositing. When doing this, parts 
   of the model 
   are divided up between the servers, rendered, and then sent 
   back to the 
   client to be displayed as a whole. Once again though this 
   wont work very 
   well if clusters and servers are all on the same machine.
   
   Alex Allen
   
   Chuck Bueche wrote:
   > Thanks Andreas,
   >
   > I initially tried using two different systems, one with 
   the client and one with two servers.  When that didn't work 
   I went to a
   > single system.  I figured that any network access, 
   including multicast, would get looped back and be 
   transparent, even if on the
   > same machine.  I've had the same results regardless of the 
   configuration. :-(
   >
   > Chuck
   >
   >    -----Original Message-----
   >    From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
   >    [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf 
   >    Of Andreas Zieringer
   >    Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 12:49 PM
   >    To: [email protected]
   >    Subject: Re: [Opensg-users] Cluster multicast
   >    
   >    Hi Chuck,
   >    
   >    did you start the clients and servers on one machine? This 
   >    doesn't work 
   >    with multicast also makes not much sense. To do 
   multicast you need 
   >    several computers in a network.
   >    
   >    Andreas
   >    
   >    > Has anyone had recent experience using multicast with a 
   >    cluster?  I'm slogging through the emails and seeing 
   lots of positive
   >    > comments about clustering performance, but I'm not seeing 
   >    it on my system.
   >    > 
   >    > I'm running on Windows XP Pro with the latest OpenSG 
   >    sources, built with Studio 2005 (argh!), and just trying to 
   >    run the cluster
   >    > test programs.  Running 1 testClusterClient and 2 
   >    testClusterServer's, things seem to work fine using the 
   >    default connection
   >    > (StreamSock).  When I enable multicast all around, I can 
   >    move the default torus for about 2 seconds before the system 
   >    locks up.
   >    > 
   >    > In different DOS consoles, I'm executing:
   >    > testClusterClient -m -M -g640,240,320,600 Server1 Server2
   >    > testClusterServer -m -e -w -g640,480,0,0 Server1
   >    > testClusterServer -m -e -w -g640,480,640,0 Server2
   >    > 
   >    > I've seen comments that once sync is lost with the data 
   >    stream, hope is lost for the cluster.  Has this been 
   >    addressed and I'm
   >    > missing it somehow?
   >    > 
   >    > Dirk posted a link to some comments on the cluster tests 
   >    way back in 2002 on geocities, but it's now dead.  If 
   >    there's someone out
   >    > there who's knowledgeable about the project and would like 
   >    to work this through, I'm available to help.  I'm not 
   familiar enough
   >    > with the innards of the system to do it on my own, though 
   >    (...yet ;-) ).
   >    > 
   >    > Also, is there an explanation for 
   testClusterASyncServer somewhere?
   >    > 
   >    > Thanks,
   >    > Chuck Bueche
   >    > 
   >    > 
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