Do you know of any sample code that does this? I wrote this up a while
ago, but it doesn't contain those baking functions:
http://opensimulator.org/wiki/Building_a_bot
-p
On May 14, 2009, at 6:58 PM, Dahlia Trimble wrote:
There is a baking method in libomv, but it is not as feature-
complete as the one in the LL viewer and may fail if incompatible
layers exist, or not all layers are available such as skin/tatoo
layers or texture based eyes. Hence, many bot programs will not use
the baking code but rather rely on viewers for compositing. These
are the bots that appear as clouds in the 1.23 viewer; other bots
which can successfully use the libomv baking method appear as normal
avatars.
On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 2:57 PM, Paul Fishwick
<[email protected]> wrote:
perhaps the bot code (libomv) can be changed to send baked
layers to the server (LL or OpenSim) ? I think the libomv folks
may be looking into this. Short of that, I'll be sticking forever
with
1.22 (as far as I know, the regular LL viewers do not time out like
the RCs).
-p
On May 14, 2009, at 5:27 PM, Melanie wrote:
I believe I can explain this.
JCool, the creator of the Emerald Viewer, has been able to shed some
light on this, since his viewer has been using a similar feature
from the start.
Bots largely depend on viewer compositing, this means they send the
individual clothing layers, but no baked ones, and the viewing
user's viewer composites them into a viewable avatar.
Starting from 1.23, LL viewer no longer send, or expect, compositing
layers. Avatars no longer carry texture information about their
individual clothing items. This is to combat theft, avatars now
carry only the 3 baked textures. Therefore, Copybot can no longer
rip clothing from an avatar it sees.
Because of this, the "Cloud" stage is perceived to be longer on 1.23
users, as they don't render until the bakes have been pushed to the
server and then downloaded by the other clients. An avatar counts as
unloaded if it's visual params are the default ones OR it has no
baked textures. Previously, it would count as unloaded only if it
had no textures at all, or all default visual params.
Since bots don't bake, they will never render for users of the 1.23,
since it neither creates not expects compositing layers.
Conversely, users of the Emerald Viewer, which features clothing
protection, appear as light grey avatars until the baked textures
are pushed to the server.
Melanie
Arthur Valadares wrote:
Paul,
True, many issues are coming with the 1.23, but what really scares
me is
that this issue is happening on 1.22 and Hippo 0.5.1. So it would be
nice we could fix 1.22 issues before cracking heads on the 1.23 ones
(and they are coming from what I've heard, that's for sure)
On Thu, 2009-05-14 at 16:47 -0400, Paul Fishwick wrote:
This has been reported on JIRA at Linden Labs, and seems to
occur, at
least for me, only with the new Release Candidate (RC) 1.23.
Version
1.22
does not exhibit the problem.
With RC Version 1.23 and an LL server, all bots are rendered
as clouds. I noticed this first with Kristen's S17 viewer which is
built
on 1.23, but the regular RC has the same problem.
With RC Version 1.23 and an OpenSim server, all avatars (including
bots) are rendered as clouds.
So, this is indeed a major issue with the upcoming LL client. For
reference
see:
https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-13386
There are many related issues, including the clothing one you
mention.
-p
On May 14, 2009, at 4:28 PM, Arthur Valadares wrote:
Hi everyone..
I've been looking into a "bug" where if you get a brand new avatar
and
create pants, shirt, shape and skin and wear all of them, you turn
into
a gas cloud. After lot's of research, it seems this is "kind of"
expected behavior. Let me try to explain what I think is
happening.
After SL Viewer 1.20, Ruth no longer existed. If you took off all
wearables, you would now become a cloud of gas. Apparently, the
viewer
thinks that if you use all those 4 wearables without changing
anything,
you have become Ruth, and so you should now be a cloud of gas. If
you
make the 4 wearables, but change ANY parameter, you no longer
become
a
cloud of gas . The thing is on OpenSim you start as Ruth, and
not as
a
cloud of gas! Which is kind of confusing that the viewer thinks
you
become Ruth when you're actually trying not to.
So I wanted to gather some ideas on how to circumvent this, if my
assumptions are correct, or get corrected otherwise. I can only
think of
creating default clothing, like Second Life does.
Thanks all!
--
Arthur Valadares <[email protected]>
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