I am in full support of showing the actual numbers for all system metrics. It is long past time we dispensed with trying to be like SL when we are not in so many ways already.
What I would suggest as a solution that should fit everyone's needs. How about we add a scaling factor that can be set in the INI file. This can be set to yield the current inflated numbers by default, but can also be set to 1 for anyone wanting real numbers. -Seth On Fri, Apr 24, 2015 at 5:50 PM, <[email protected]> wrote: > Send Opensim-dev mailing list submissions to > [email protected] > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://opensimulator.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/opensim-dev > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > [email protected] > > You can reach the person managing the list at > [email protected] > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Opensim-dev digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: MOSES patch submitted (UNCLASSIFIED) (Michael Emory Cerquoni) > 2. Re: MOSES patch submitted (UNCLASSIFIED) (Michael Emory Cerquoni) > 3. Re: MOSES patch submitted (UNCLASSIFIED) (Michael Emory Cerquoni) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2015 17:40:39 -0400 > From: Michael Emory Cerquoni <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [Opensim-dev] MOSES patch submitted (UNCLASSIFIED) > Message-ID: > <CAF5= > [email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > ok I will continue testing this for now, we should try to resolve the white > space issues before it hits core, we can worry about that later though. I > hope others can start testing this patch as well we need to really make > sure this does not break any scripts or monitoring apps before this changes > the core code, so anyone who has the time please do test this and let us > know if you notice anything change or break, thanks! > > On Fri, Apr 24, 2015 at 3:38 PM, Maxwell, Douglas CIV USARMY ARL (US) < > [email protected]> wrote: > > > Classification: UNCLASSIFIED > > Caveats: NONE > > > > What you saw were just warnings about white spaces. The patch should > still > > apply and work. We follows the open simulator patch creation guidance > > explicitly, if you guys have updated instructions for how you want this > > done - > > let us know. Otherwise, you can ignore the warnings. > > > > v/r -douglas > > > > Douglas Maxwell, MSME > > Science and Technology Manager > > Virtual World Strategic Applications > > U.S. Army Research Lab > > Simulation & Training Technology Center (STTC) > > (c) (407) 242-0209 > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [email protected] > > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Michael > Emory > > Cerquoni > > Sent: Friday, April 24, 2015 2:38 PM > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: Re: [Opensim-dev] MOSES patch submitted > > > > please check the mantis, i had some trouble applying patch for testing, > > thanks > > guys! > > > > > > On Fri, Apr 24, 2015 at 1:30 PM, Michael Heilmann <[email protected]> > > wrote: > > > > > > Opensim Devs > > > > Just an FYI, mantis bug #7540 is the first code submission from > > project > > MOSES. Thanks. > > > > -- > > Michael Heilmann > > Research Associate > > Institute for Simulation and Training > > University of Central Florida > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Opensim-dev mailing list > > [email protected] > > http://opensimulator.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/opensim-dev > > <blockedhttp://opensimulator.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/opensim-dev> > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Michael Emory Cerquoni > > > > Classification: UNCLASSIFIED > > Caveats: NONE > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Opensim-dev mailing list > > [email protected] > > http://opensimulator.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/opensim-dev > > > > > > > -- > Michael Emory Cerquoni > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: < > http://opensimulator.org/pipermail/opensim-dev/attachments/20150424/981b6919/attachment-0001.html > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2015 17:42:52 -0400 > From: Michael Emory Cerquoni <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [Opensim-dev] MOSES patch submitted (UNCLASSIFIED) > Message-ID: > <CAF5= > [email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > ok so just so I understand we should now see this actually just display > 11fps? Personally I think this is a bad idea, alot of people may be using > monitoring apps and scripts that look for low fps and restart the region, > we would basically be forcing everyone to rewrite a lot of code to > accommodate a singular purpose? Not quite sure how this improves the > project as a whole. > > On Fri, Apr 24, 2015 at 5:40 PM, Michael Emory Cerquoni < > [email protected]> wrote: > > > ok I will continue testing this for now, we should try to resolve the > > white space issues before it hits core, we can worry about that later > > though. I hope others can start testing this patch as well we need to > > really make sure this does not break any scripts or monitoring apps > before > > this changes the core code, so anyone who has the time please do test > this > > and let us know if you notice anything change or break, thanks! > > > > On Fri, Apr 24, 2015 at 3:38 PM, Maxwell, Douglas CIV USARMY ARL (US) < > > [email protected]> wrote: > > > >> Classification: UNCLASSIFIED > >> Caveats: NONE > >> > >> What you saw were just warnings about white spaces. The patch should > >> still > >> apply and work. We follows the open simulator patch creation guidance > >> explicitly, if you guys have updated instructions for how you want this > >> done - > >> let us know. Otherwise, you can ignore the warnings. > >> > >> v/r -douglas > >> > >> Douglas Maxwell, MSME > >> Science and Technology Manager > >> Virtual World Strategic Applications > >> U.S. Army Research Lab > >> Simulation & Training Technology Center (STTC) > >> (c) (407) 242-0209 > >> > >> > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: [email protected] > >> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Michael > Emory > >> Cerquoni > >> Sent: Friday, April 24, 2015 2:38 PM > >> To: [email protected] > >> Subject: Re: [Opensim-dev] MOSES patch submitted > >> > >> please check the mantis, i had some trouble applying patch for testing, > >> thanks > >> guys! > >> > >> > >> On Fri, Apr 24, 2015 at 1:30 PM, Michael Heilmann <[email protected] > > > >> wrote: > >> > >> > >> Opensim Devs > >> > >> Just an FYI, mantis bug #7540 is the first code submission from > >> project > >> MOSES. Thanks. > >> > >> -- > >> Michael Heilmann > >> Research Associate > >> Institute for Simulation and Training > >> University of Central Florida > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Opensim-dev mailing list > >> [email protected] > >> http://opensimulator.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/opensim-dev > >> <blockedhttp://opensimulator.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/opensim-dev> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> > >> Michael Emory Cerquoni > >> > >> Classification: UNCLASSIFIED > >> Caveats: NONE > >> > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Opensim-dev mailing list > >> [email protected] > >> http://opensimulator.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/opensim-dev > >> > >> > > > > > > -- > > Michael Emory Cerquoni > > > > > > -- > Michael Emory Cerquoni > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: < > http://opensimulator.org/pipermail/opensim-dev/attachments/20150424/ac0c082d/attachment-0001.html > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2015 17:50:32 -0400 > From: Michael Emory Cerquoni <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [Opensim-dev] MOSES patch submitted (UNCLASSIFIED) > Message-ID: > <CAF5=rqWbXjfgv5Au9VDa+_b8AsvY4NpL2CFxY=4L=ncE= > [email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > I have to admit I am a bit bewildered at this patch, what is the actual > benefit of reporting the actual numbers if it has the potential to break so > much? Can we rethink this and have this be a variable that can be > configured for different applications, I really hate the idea of forcing > this change on everyone without much better ability to explain why this is > so important, having it just go from 55fps to 11fps is going to freak > people out and cause a lot of problems for the core development support > teams. To me it makes more sense to make the multiplication factor > configurable so that if a certain grid wants to run at normal stats they > can set the modifier to 1.0 if a certain grid wants to be an analogue of > second life they can change the modifier to 5.0, but if forcing everyone to > use this is the only option I have to say my vote is -1 for inclusion at > this point, unless someone can really convince me why this is so important > otherwise. > > On Fri, Apr 24, 2015 at 5:42 PM, Michael Emory Cerquoni < > [email protected]> wrote: > > > ok so just so I understand we should now see this actually just display > > 11fps? Personally I think this is a bad idea, alot of people may be using > > monitoring apps and scripts that look for low fps and restart the region, > > we would basically be forcing everyone to rewrite a lot of code to > > accommodate a singular purpose? Not quite sure how this improves the > > project as a whole. > > > > On Fri, Apr 24, 2015 at 5:40 PM, Michael Emory Cerquoni < > > [email protected]> wrote: > > > >> ok I will continue testing this for now, we should try to resolve the > >> white space issues before it hits core, we can worry about that later > >> though. I hope others can start testing this patch as well we need to > >> really make sure this does not break any scripts or monitoring apps > before > >> this changes the core code, so anyone who has the time please do test > this > >> and let us know if you notice anything change or break, thanks! > >> > >> On Fri, Apr 24, 2015 at 3:38 PM, Maxwell, Douglas CIV USARMY ARL (US) < > >> [email protected]> wrote: > >> > >>> Classification: UNCLASSIFIED > >>> Caveats: NONE > >>> > >>> What you saw were just warnings about white spaces. The patch should > >>> still > >>> apply and work. We follows the open simulator patch creation guidance > >>> explicitly, if you guys have updated instructions for how you want this > >>> done - > >>> let us know. Otherwise, you can ignore the warnings. > >>> > >>> v/r -douglas > >>> > >>> Douglas Maxwell, MSME > >>> Science and Technology Manager > >>> Virtual World Strategic Applications > >>> U.S. Army Research Lab > >>> Simulation & Training Technology Center (STTC) > >>> (c) (407) 242-0209 > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> -----Original Message----- > >>> From: [email protected] > >>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Michael > >>> Emory > >>> Cerquoni > >>> Sent: Friday, April 24, 2015 2:38 PM > >>> To: [email protected] > >>> Subject: Re: [Opensim-dev] MOSES patch submitted > >>> > >>> please check the mantis, i had some trouble applying patch for testing, > >>> thanks > >>> guys! > >>> > >>> > >>> On Fri, Apr 24, 2015 at 1:30 PM, Michael Heilmann < > [email protected]> > >>> wrote: > >>> > >>> > >>> Opensim Devs > >>> > >>> Just an FYI, mantis bug #7540 is the first code submission from > >>> project > >>> MOSES. Thanks. > >>> > >>> -- > >>> Michael Heilmann > >>> Research Associate > >>> Institute for Simulation and Training > >>> University of Central Florida > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Opensim-dev mailing list > >>> [email protected] > >>> http://opensimulator.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/opensim-dev > >>> <blockedhttp://opensimulator.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/opensim-dev> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> -- > >>> > >>> Michael Emory Cerquoni > >>> > >>> Classification: UNCLASSIFIED > >>> Caveats: NONE > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Opensim-dev mailing list > >>> [email protected] > >>> http://opensimulator.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/opensim-dev > >>> > >>> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> Michael Emory Cerquoni > >> > > > > > > > > -- > > Michael Emory Cerquoni > > > > > > -- > Michael Emory Cerquoni > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: < > http://opensimulator.org/pipermail/opensim-dev/attachments/20150424/28f4856d/attachment.html > > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Opensim-dev mailing list > [email protected] > http://opensimulator.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/opensim-dev > > > End of Opensim-dev Digest, Vol 13, Issue 34 > ******************************************* >
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