On 22/09/11 17:56, Fleep Tuque wrote:
Hi all,
I'm having some trouble hypergridding FROM FleepGrid, though it appears many
folks are able to hypergrid TO FleepGrid
just fine. In testing, I've not yet been able to successfully hypergrid out of
FleepGrid to any destination, and I'm
having a lot of confusion about the 4096 limitation to figure out suitable
grids/regions to try to teleport to so I can
chase down what's going wrong.
In the course of trying to chase down the problem, I've got several questions
that I'm hoping someone on the list can
either answer or point me to better resources for finding the answers.
QUESTION 1: I understand Diva is encouraging everyone to relocate their sims
to centers less than 4096,4096 and I
understand why based on this blog post - The 4096 "Bug":
http://metaverseink.com/blog/?p=222 It appears many people are
NOT changing their coords to the lower centers, is there a reason why? If I'm
reading Diva's post correctly, the
limitation is not going to go away any time soon so I'm wondering why folks
aren't changing them to make hypergridding
easier for travelers.. I haven't changed them on FleepGrid yet either
(9000,9000) and trying to decide what's the best
course to take both for FleepGrid and for the University of Cincinnati grid
we're about to install.
I suspect the reason is simply the difficulty of co-ordinating such a move. And tbh, it's not a great reason to move -
a far better approach would be to fix the viewer but I hear that the limitation is difficult to address.
QUESTION 2: If people aren't going to change to lower centers, then don't we
all need to publish the region centers in
addition to the HG address in order for travelers to know whether they can make
the jump or not? I'm finding
http://www.hyperica.com/complete-grid-list/ completely unhelpful as a directory
because I don't know the region centers
or opensim/hg versions for most of the destinations. So when my jump fails, I
don't know if it's a problem on my end
or because the region was too far away or because it's on a different version
than me. The Hypergrid Mall is another
example, http://hypergridmall.com/ - Right on the front page it has the
hypergrid address, but no center coords or
version info, so when my jump fails, I don't know why.
I see you're using 0.7.1. In current dev master code, I put in a check to tell you why a teleport fails if it exceeds
the 4096 limit. This change will be in the forthcoming 0.7.2 so at least you'll get a bit more feedback.
QUESTION 3: I'm completely confused about the correct formatting for a
hypergrid URL. I've seen so many variations!
secondlife://domain.com:8002:RegionName
http://domain.com:8002:RegionName
http://hg.domain.com:8002:RegionName
Also not sure about proper formatting for region names with spaces in them, is a
"%20" required or not? Which of the
following is correct?
http://domain.com:8002:Region%20Name
http://domain.com:8002:Region Name
http://domain.com:8002: Region Name
This confuses me as well. I've been using addresses of the form
secondlife://justincc.osgrid.org:20000:r1/128/128/128
but I'm aware that this isn't the only way to do it, and I'm not sure this
address form even works in viewer 2/3.
I'd love to dig into the code and map all this stuff out on the wiki but unfortunately I simply don't have time at the
moment. And Diva is also tremendously busy herself right now, being a full time academic chairing big conferences as
well as an open-source hacker!
But if anybody does work out what can and can't be done then updates to the wiki page are very welcome. As you see,
there's no good authoritative source other than the code itself at the moment.
QUESTION 4: FleepGrid is running OpenSim 0.7.1 Release (interface version 7)
and FleepGrid Plaza is centered at
9000,9000 currently, but I also have a Hypergate region at 5000,5000 and
13000,13000. If you're running a compatible
version of opensim and theoretically I SHOULD be able to hypergrid to your
destination, can you reply with the address
so I can give it a try on a known "should work" region? I'm finding so many
broken addresses and links and things I'm
going crazy trying to figure out what's wrong with hypergridding out.
................
I've reviewed the wiki pages http://opensimulator.org/wiki/Hypergrid and
http://opensimulator.org/wiki/Installing_and_Running_Hypergrid but I'm
obviously still confused about some things.
Thanks in advance for your thoughts or suggestions, and sorry if I'm behind the
curve..
- Chris/Fleep
Chris M. Collins (SL: Fleep Tuque)
Project Manager, UC Second Life
UCit Instructional & Research Computing
University of Cincinnati
406E Zimmer Hall
PO Box 210088
Cincinnati, OH 45221-0088
(513)556-3018
[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
http://www.uc.edu/ucit/learningtools/secondlife.html
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