Thanks Fleep. Yes just to confirm "Wear clothing now" does work in opensim. R
On Sun, Oct 28, 2012 at 5:32 PM, Fleep Tuque <[email protected]> wrote: > Sure, I completely understand that, I work with students too so I definitely > understand where you're coming from. My last email was just trying to > clarify if there is some confusion between the "open" and "buy contents" > options, because they work differently based on who owns the prim and who > has edit permissions on the prim. > > I _think_ for the use case you've described, where you will own the prim, > and you want students to be able to simply left click on it to get the > uniform items, then what you want is the "buy contents" option, not the > "open" option. Even though of course they won't actually be buying anything > since you'll set the price to zero. > > Here's what you have to do to make that work: > > - In your opensim.ini file, go to the [Economy] section and make sure enable > buying and selling for $0 is set to true (I think this is the default, but > might want to double check). > > - Place the uniform items inside your prim, make sure all items are at least > copyable. > > - Edit your container prim, in the General tab check the box to set the item > for sale, set the price to $0. > > - Click the radio button under the sale price for "Contents" to sell the > contents of the prim and not the prim itself. > > - In the lower left corner of the edit window, use the pull down menu to set > When left-clicked: Buy Object > > Then when your student left clicks on the prim, it will open a window to > automatically buy the contents of your prim. I'm not sure the check box to > "Wear clothing now" actually works in Opensim, but that's where it will show > up for your users if it does work. If not, the students will need to wear > the items from their inventory. > > Give that a try and see if it behaves the way you were hoping. =) > > > - Chris/Fleep > > > Chris M. Collins (SL/OS: Fleep Tuque) > Center for Simulations & Virtual Environments Research (UCSIM) > UCIT Instructional & Research Computing > University of Cincinnati > 406A Zimmer Hall > 315 College Drive > PO BOX 210088 > Cincinnati, OH 45221-0088 > [email protected] > (513) 556-3018 > > http://ucsim.uc.edu > > > > On Sun, Oct 28, 2012 at 5:12 PM, Dr Ramesh Ramloll <[email protected]> > wrote: >> >> This is the use case: Students logs in, and need to wear uniform. They >> are not Second Life users, don't want to buy anything, just wear the >> uniform and proceed to do their task. After they do their thing, they >> will never ever log into the environment again. Aim here is to go in, >> do you stuff in a team and get out with minimal number of things to >> learn etc... >> While I understand that Second Life *expects* prior knowledge of a >> certain kind which grew based on the trajectory of the environment, it >> might not be helpful to project this expectation on the 'casual' user >> because this usually leads to things that they need to learn before >> they actually get to do things they need to (which I equate to user >> interface noise). >> Ramesh >> >> On Sun, Oct 28, 2012 at 4:52 PM, Fleep Tuque <[email protected]> wrote: >> > I must be confused, as far as I know another user has NEVER been able to >> > open a prim owned by someone else unless they have edit permissions on >> > that >> > user's items. Why should they? It's my prim, you shouldn't be able to >> > open >> > it unless you have edit privs on my stuff. Unless of course you've >> > bought a >> > copy of the prim and you are now the owner yourself, THEN you should be >> > able >> > to open the prim. >> > >> > If you're trying to give that functionality to someone else when you are >> > still the owner of the prim, are you perhaps confusing the combination >> > of >> > "setting a prim for sale + contents radio button + default touch action >> > set >> > to buy" with being able to open a prim? If the item is set for sale, to >> > sell >> > the contents, and the default touch action is set to buy the object, >> > then >> > when another user clicks on the prim, it opens the window to buy the >> > item's >> > contents. >> > >> > Sorry if this is confusing, but as far as I can tell in opensim 0.7.4, >> > the >> > "open" option functions exactly as expected. >> > >> > - Chris/Fleep >> > >> > >> > Chris M. Collins (SL/OS: Fleep Tuque) >> > Center for Simulations & Virtual Environments Research (UCSIM) >> > UCIT Instructional & Research Computing >> > University of Cincinnati >> > 406A Zimmer Hall >> > 315 College Drive >> > PO BOX 210088 >> > Cincinnati, OH 45221-0088 >> > [email protected] >> > (513) 556-3018 >> > >> > http://ucsim.uc.edu >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > On Sun, Oct 28, 2012 at 2:48 PM, James Hughes <[email protected]> >> > wrote: >> >> >> >> OK, thanks. My dev grid is HG enabled and I see the same behavior. If I >> >> edit the container prim with an alt I see wrong permissions. I asked >> >> about >> >> HG because some work was done recently to restrict import and export of >> >> prims. So, I was wondering. Maybe I will get some time to look into >> >> this >> >> soon. >> >> >> >> Thanks >> >> -BlueWall >> >> >> >> >> >> On 10/28/2012 02:26 PM, Dr Ramesh Ramloll wrote: >> >>> >> >>> Hi James, >> >>> No they are not on HG enabled regions. >> >>> Ramesh >> >>> >> >>> On Sun, Oct 28, 2012 at 1:23 PM, James >> >>> Hughes<[email protected]> >> >>> wrote: >> >>>> >> >>>> Are these objects in HG enabled regions? >> >>>> >> >>>> -BlueWall >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> On 10/28/2012 08:21 AM, Dr Ramesh Ramloll wrote: >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> Thanks so much Garmin. Now I know what I need to do to make things >> >>>>> work. There must be a reason why these constraints were implemented, >> >>>>> will try to find out. Right now, they look more like barriers to me, >> >>>>> because now I have to find a way to friend casual users, or find out >> >>>>> how to put them in groups. >> >>>>> >> >>>>> On Sun, Oct 28, 2012 at 6:28 AM, GarminKawaguichi >> >>>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> After a few tries: >> >>>>>> Open has the same level of security as Edit >> >>>>>> If an avatar wants to Edit/Open an object owned by yourself >> >>>>>> - he must be your friend with the right "Friend can edit, delete or >> >>>>>> take >> >>>>>> objects" set in Contacts >> >>>>>> or >> >>>>>> - the object must be shared with a group and the avatar must have >> >>>>>> the >> >>>>>> same >> >>>>>> group activated! >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> GCI >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> Le 28/10/2012 01:35, Dr Ramesh Ramloll a écrit : >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> Hello, >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> Yes, I have set the 'click to:' drop down list to 'open'. >> >>>>>>> Opensim version 0.7.4 >> >>>>>>> Works fine for me but not for others. >> >>>>>>> Ramesh >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> On Sat, Oct 27, 2012 at 7:10 PM, R.Gunther<[email protected]> >> >>>>>>> wrote: >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> Have you set in edit under geberal the option >> >>>>>>>> "when left clicked" to "open" ? >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> It works fine for me that way with a pretty recent git version. >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >> >>>>>> Opensim-users mailing list >> >>>>>> [email protected] >> >>>>>> https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/opensim-users >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> _______________________________________________ >> >>>> Opensim-users mailing list >> >>>> [email protected] >> >>>> https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/opensim-users >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Opensim-users mailing list >> >> [email protected] >> >> https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/opensim-users >> > >> > >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Opensim-users mailing list >> > [email protected] >> > https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/opensim-users >> >> >> >> -- >> 'Consider how the lilies grow. 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