Hi mic, Kitely implemented the approach you suggested but due to some changes with chrome (and some of the other browsers I think), now the recommended way to log in is through the viewer. Illan or Oren can perhaps tell us more or correct me. Ramesh
On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 1:53 PM, Mic Bowman <[email protected]> wrote: > I have a related question... for a while simian provided a separate > "launcher" application could launch a viewer and embed in the login URI > your openid credentials (the launcher app when installed registered with > the internet browser as a handler for a URL scheme). It was pretty nice > because there was no need to set up login uris in the viewer at all (and > you didn't have to "login" if you had an authenticated OpenID). I still > have the code but it relied on the viewers supporting the command line > "--loginuri" switch so it stopped working when the viewers stopped > supporting that switch. > > At this point... i'm interested in one of two login/startup options: > > Option 1: provide a URL in a web page which, when clicked on, would launch > the viewer with the login uri embedded (obviously supporting an openid > authentication would be nice too). > > Option 2: provide a URL for a hypergrid link which, when clicked on, would > log you into your home grid with the startup region a hypergridded region. > > I kind of prefer the second option because it doesn't require account > creation... but either one would help us with the login uri configuration > problem. > > --mic > > > > On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 8:49 AM, Diva Canto <[email protected]> wrote: > >> I don't know about "branding" viewers, that's a whole other issue. But >> regarding the process to make these environments easily accessible to >> newcomers, I have some advice. >> >> A setup guide with painfully clear instructions works very well for >> people who have never used this system before. I'm making the one I wrote >> publicly available for non-commercial use, feel free to direct your users >> to it: >> http://www.ics.uci.edu/~lopes/opensim/SingularitySetupGuide.pdf >> I usually send this setup guide by email along with the two URLs that >> people need, one in step 1 and the other in step 4. In the email, I let >> them know that they will need those URLs in those steps. >> >> So far, I've had zero problems with people configuring things and login. >> >> Interacting while inside the world is another story, as these >> environments are extremely confusing for people who aren't used to them. >> For those of you designing educational settings in opensim, my >> recommendation is to design your environments so that people have a lot >> less degrees of freedom than what these viewers provide. For example, have >> people login to an environment with chairs/sits, and immediately have them >> click on a chair and sit down. The chairs should have scripts for >> controlling their cameras, so that they look at exactly the right thing, >> whatever that is. >> >> I wrote about some of these design issues here: >> >> http://tagide.com/blog/2013/03/design-and-implementation-of-a-virtual-collaboration-environment/ >> >> I've made peace with the fact that we have a complicated client software >> that people need to install and configure. The way to mitigate the >> complexity for newcomers is threefold: >> >> (1) avoid the Grid Manager altogether and use the grid textbox for the >> login URL, which, thank god!, the Singularity developers already did; >> >> (2) provide setup guides that are as clear as possible (we're not the >> only ones doing this, btw; many web conferencing systems also require >> software installation and configuration); and >> >> (3) design your environments so that they are as simple as possible -- >> these environments have too many degrees of freedom, but it's possible to >> reduce them. >> >> >> On 2/19/2014 7:45 AM, Dr Ramesh Ramloll wrote: >> >> Kay, I think there are a number of things that need tailoring in addition >> to the ability of adding a grid (which as diva pointed is available in >> singularity). For my user base, no one will ever be interested to do even >> that (no interest => will never learn). I was hoping for some configuration >> file that can contain the needed custom data e.g. list of names of regions, >> urls to pictures of various regions etc.. and once the user downloads the >> viewer+drop the custom config file in the same folder, the config file is >> read and all the important pieces set on application launch. So may be >> working with tpv developers can help .... I definitely think that the only >> things the casual user should know is how to navigate, click/touch, and >> voice chat. The rest is for us. >> >> >> On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 9:41 AM, Diva Canto <[email protected]>wrote: >> >>> Singularity already has this. >>> >>> On 2/19/2014 4:42 AM, Kay McLennan wrote: >>> >>> As an alternative to re-branding 3 different versions of a viewer (to >>> match 3 different operating systems) each time a viewer is upgraded, would >>> it be possible to develop viewers that utilize web browser-like addresses >>> (?). What I have in mind is being able to type (or copy) a grid's login >>> URL directly into the "Grid" text box. In this way, there is no need to: >>> (1) re-brand viewers; or (2) go through all of the steps needed to add a >>> grid to a viewer via the "Grid Manager" feature. >>> >>> Again, wouldn't it be easier to develop viewers that enable users to >>> simply type a grid URL into the grid name box (?). >>> >>> -- Kay >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Opensim-users mailing >>> [email protected]https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/opensim-users >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Opensim-users mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/opensim-users >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> 'Consider how the lilies grow. 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