Thanks Robert, Crista, great tips.
On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 11:49 AM, Diva Canto <[email protected]> wrote: > I don't know about "branding" viewers, that's a whole other issue. But > regarding the process to make these environments easily accessible to > newcomers, I have some advice. > > A setup guide with painfully clear instructions works very well for people > who have never used this system before. I'm making the one I wrote publicly > available for non-commercial use, feel free to direct your users to it: > http://www.ics.uci.edu/~lopes/opensim/SingularitySetupGuide.pdf > I usually send this setup guide by email along with the two URLs that > people need, one in step 1 and the other in step 4. In the email, I let > them know that they will need those URLs in those steps. > > So far, I've had zero problems with people configuring things and login. > > Interacting while inside the world is another story, as these environments > are extremely confusing for people who aren't used to them. For those of > you designing educational settings in opensim, my recommendation is to > design your environments so that people have a lot less degrees of freedom > than what these viewers provide. For example, have people login to an > environment with chairs/sits, and immediately have them click on a chair > and sit down. The chairs should have scripts for controlling their cameras, > so that they look at exactly the right thing, whatever that is. > > I wrote about some of these design issues here: > > http://tagide.com/blog/2013/03/design-and-implementation-of-a-virtual-collaboration-environment/ > > I've made peace with the fact that we have a complicated client software > that people need to install and configure. The way to mitigate the > complexity for newcomers is threefold: > > (1) avoid the Grid Manager altogether and use the grid textbox for the > login URL, which, thank god!, the Singularity developers already did; > > (2) provide setup guides that are as clear as possible (we're not the only > ones doing this, btw; many web conferencing systems also require software > installation and configuration); and > > (3) design your environments so that they are as simple as possible -- > these environments have too many degrees of freedom, but it's possible to > reduce them. > > > On 2/19/2014 7:45 AM, Dr Ramesh Ramloll wrote: > > Kay, I think there are a number of things that need tailoring in addition > to the ability of adding a grid (which as diva pointed is available in > singularity). For my user base, no one will ever be interested to do even > that (no interest => will never learn). I was hoping for some configuration > file that can contain the needed custom data e.g. list of names of regions, > urls to pictures of various regions etc.. and once the user downloads the > viewer+drop the custom config file in the same folder, the config file is > read and all the important pieces set on application launch. So may be > working with tpv developers can help .... I definitely think that the only > things the casual user should know is how to navigate, click/touch, and > voice chat. The rest is for us. > > > On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 9:41 AM, Diva Canto <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Singularity already has this. >> >> On 2/19/2014 4:42 AM, Kay McLennan wrote: >> >> As an alternative to re-branding 3 different versions of a viewer (to >> match 3 different operating systems) each time a viewer is upgraded, would >> it be possible to develop viewers that utilize web browser-like addresses >> (?). What I have in mind is being able to type (or copy) a grid's login >> URL directly into the "Grid" text box. In this way, there is no need to: >> (1) re-brand viewers; or (2) go through all of the steps needed to add a >> grid to a viewer via the "Grid Manager" feature. >> >> Again, wouldn't it be easier to develop viewers that enable users to >> simply type a grid URL into the grid name box (?). >> >> -- Kay >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Opensim-users mailing >> [email protected]https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/opensim-users >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Opensim-users mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/opensim-users >> > > > > -- > 'Consider how the lilies grow. 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