Many thanks to Fred Beckhusen for the very detailled how to set the Loopback. After I configured the Loopback I removed the line in the Host file and started the Standalone. I could not log in. I added the line again in the Host file. I loged in and hyper-teleported to the osgrid. But I could not go back home. Solution with the Loopback does not work for me.
The Fritzbox routers I got to test, are not usable because they are too old. I need a router that is able to handle telephone through the internet and also my TV receiver. c) so now seems the only option available for me it's to set a VPS or pay to a provider to host my regions OR stay as I am hyper-travelling and loging off in the grid I am visiting to relog in my standalone. And for now I will opt for that. And wanted to let you all know. I appreciate a lot your responses and your suggestions. Thank you :)) On Thu, Oct 22, 2015 at 1:30 AM, Isis Ophelia <isisophe...@gmail.com> wrote: > Thanks so much for all replies. > OK even tough my Telekom router has inside a Nat Loopback and I can > configure it to forward the ports I mentioned above. It seems Thomas is > right. It says to have Nat Loopback but it does not work properly. A friend > told me to get a Fritzbox! router. I have hesitated to spend money in a new > router not knowing if that will solve my problem. But from your comments, I > see it is not opensim and not my configured files, it must be my router. > > Han Held, yes, that is all set. Works fine. > > Unadecal thanks a lot. Your answer to my July email has brought my problem > up, thank you :) I have reverted RegionConfig.ini to the one I had before. > Internal is now 0.0.0.0 and external is my dyndns domain from no-ip. > A while back I installed the Microsoft Loopback Adapter. Even though I see > it listed in my Internet Connections, my router does not see it. Googling > around I have not found a tutorial on how to configure and use it. The > Loopback is still installed. Anyone has a usable tutorial link please? > > Thomas in the meantime I got 2 older Fritzbox! routers to test. I will > follow what you mentioned and will connect my Telekom router to the > Fritzbox! router and see if that fixes the problem. > > TO DO. > > a) Fritzbox test see what happens > b) if that doesnt help, then find a way on how to use the installed > Microsoft Loopback Adapter > c) or read around what a VPS is and test that solution. > > I will write in here, how I have been doing and if I solve the problem > will let you know how I solved it. > > > On Thu, Oct 22, 2015 at 12:50 AM, Unadecal Arado <unadecal.ar...@gmail.com > > wrote: > >> I concur with Thomas's outstanding explanation. >> >> In my experience, you might want to try doing the following: >> >> Make sure that your router forwards all the ports in use, and that >> Windows Firewall has them open. >> In RegionConfig, set all the internal ports to 0.0.0.0, and all the >> ExternalHostName to arcanavirtual.noip.me >> Undo changes to the hosts file. >> Try installing the Microsoft Loopback adaptor and test. >> If that does not work, uninstall the loopback adaptor and try a VPN >> instead, since it is clear that your router does not support NAT loopback, >> which is the source of your problem. >> >> I have used the FREE version of CyberGhost VPN in the past with some >> measure of success. >> The main thing here is to make sure that all the Opensim-specific >> parameters are set correctly, test this by having HG users teleport into >> your regions to verify that it all works, and then work on solving your NAT >> loopback without breaking your server. >> >> I hope you can come right with this :) >> >> On 21 October 2015 at 22:59, Thomas Ringate <tring...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> opensim requires the loopback function to work for it to operate >>> correctly. >>> >>> Loopback can be implemented in a few ways as has already been suggested. >>> >>> If your server and viewer are on the same computer, using the windows >>> loopback adapter will solve the problem for you. >>> >>> If you are running several servers on an internal network, or you are >>> trying to connect to a server on an internal network from a client, ”your >>> viewer” which is on a different machine on the same internal network then >>> the router must support loopback. >>> >>> Most new home routers do not support loopback, and even those that claim >>> to support it usually do not correctly support it. This can be seen using >>> a sniffer you can see that addresses in the individual packets often get >>> the address of the router, rather than the actual address of the sending >>> computer. Fortunately this problem usually results in a timeout and >>> opensim usually will do a retry and these “broken servers” for whatever >>> reason often get it right more than they get it wrong. >>> >>> If you do not have a router that correctly supports loopback, and you >>> are not running everything on the same computer your only hope is to use a >>> VPN to get outside of your local network so the remote router can do the >>> loopback functions for you. >>> >>> In my case I have Verizon FioS which uses the Actiontec modem which does >>> not support loopback according to the manufacturer and using a sniffer I >>> can say they are correct. It does not. However Verizon has implemented >>> something in their head end some how that “tries” to implement it. It >>> works right about 40% of the time. >>> >>> I found after hours and hours of discussion with Verizon technical >>> support that their commercial costumers solve this problem by simply >>> placing a router that does support loopback directly on their ONT and then >>> connecting the Actiontec router to that router. That is exactly what I >>> have done using an old Linksys router and everything is now working fine. >>> >>> The correct term of the feature we are talking about is “NAT loopback”. >>> *NAT >>> loopback*, also known as *NAT* hairpinning or *NAT* reflection, is a >>> feature in many consumer routers which permits the access of a service via >>> the public IP address from inside the local network. >>> >>> I believe your issue is the perfect example of why opensim requires >>> loopback to work. The address of your local world is known by it’s NAT >>> address, outside of your local network which is an un-routable address. >>> >>> By messing with your host file you can fake things for yourself inside >>> your local network, but the IP address opensim is sending is either your >>> external IP address or the local IP address. It can not determine when to >>> send one or the other so it sends what you tell it by a specific IP address >>> or the domain name. >>> >>> With a router that supports NAT loopback, you use the domain name and >>> both internal and external users work just fine. If the router does not >>> support it, and you are only running one opensim server on your local >>> network, if you use your NAT address, only local users will work fine. If >>> you use you external IP address only external users will work fine. If you >>> run multiple opensim servers your router must support loopback if you >>> expect remote users to be able to move between your regions on the >>> different local servers without problems. >>> >>> >>> *From:* Han Held <hanh...@yahoo.com> >>> *Sent:* Wednesday, October 21, 2015 2:26 PM >>> *To:* opensim-users@opensimulator.org >>> *Subject:* Re: [Opensim-users] HG - Not able to teleport back home >>> >>> 192.168.2.xxx is an internal network number; that works fine until you >>> have to connect to the outside internet, once you do that opensim gets >>> confused. >>> >>> I have a no-ip address which I set up to my actual home LAN number, >>> which I get from whatismyip.com >>> >>> >>> On 10/21/2015 07:54 AM, Isis Ophelia wrote: >>> >>> Thank you Garmin. I have configured my internet connection to be a >>> static internal IP which is 192.168.2.10. Following your suggestion I >>> replaced the 0.0.0.0 with that IP. >>> Result is: The console shows: >>> 17:48:30 - [SCENE]: Region Arcana Welcome authenticated and authorized >>> incoming >>> root agent Isis Ophelia 1b77be9b-248e-400b-a4ca-499d0aa06d77 (circuit >>> code 40308 >>> 2697) >>> >>> And the viewer tells me: We are having problems connecting. There might >>> be a problem with your internet connection or the Arcana World Grid. >>> So pity this does not help :( >>> Thank so much though :) >>> >>> On Wed, Oct 21, 2015 at 4:24 PM, GarminKawaguichi < >>> <garmin.kawagui...@magalaxie.com>garmin.kawagui...@magalaxie.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Maybe try that: >>>> in your RegionConfig.ini >>>> >>>> InternalAddress = something like 192.168.0.??? (local lan address >>>> different for different computers on a same lan) >>>> >>>> MML >>>> >>>> >>>> Le 21/10/2015 15:37, Isis Ophelia a écrit : >>>> >>>> Stand October 21, 2015 >>>> >>>> 1) router is configured to forward TCP and UDP Ports 9000-9006 >>>> 2) windows firewall Inbound Rule TPC ports 9000-9006 and UDP Ports >>>> 9000-9006 for diva-r25950 -> Opensim.exe >>>> 3) Dyndns noip installed software that will update my external IP each >>>> time it changes >>>> 4) Hosts file: 127.0.0.1 arcanavirtual.noip.me >>>> This add-on in the host file is recommended from Diva Canto in the >>>> Instructions file, when diva opensim and viewer are installed in the same >>>> PC. When I remove the line from the Hosts file, I am not able to connect to >>>> my Standalone with any viewer installed in my PC. >>>> >>>> Attached MyWorld.ini and RegionConfig.ini >>>> >>>> In the RegionConfig.ini the line: ExternalHostName = "SYSTEMIP" >>>> replacing SYSTEMIP with my external domain does not make any difference. >>>> >>>> With these configurations, I can connect to my Standalone. I can work >>>> in my 6 regions. I can hyperteleport to any HG enable grid. And a test >>>> showed that others can reach my Standalone and go back to their home grid. >>>> >>>> I am still not able to go back home. The message I get in the Console >>>> says something like: unexpectedly still child avatar. >>>> >>>> So for now, I just log off in the hypergrid I am visiting, and log on >>>> in my Standalone again. >>>> >>>> Many thanks :) >>>> >>>> On Wed, Oct 21, 2015 at 2:50 PM, Unadecal Arado < >>>> <unadecal.ar...@gmail.com>unadecal.ar...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi Isis, please see comments to your original post: >>>>> >>>>> Of the top of my head, you need to forward the simulator ports on the >>>>> router and Windows Firewall (I completely disable Windows Firewall on all >>>>> my computers). >>>>> >>>>> Adding your domain name as a loopback alias in the hosts file is a >>>>> sign that your router is unable to handle loopback calls, i.e. is unable >>>>> to >>>>> resolve your domain name to your external IPand allow traffic to travel >>>>> back into and through itself. There are other software solutions to this, >>>>> such as using a vpn while you are logged into the viewer. Fiddling with >>>>> the >>>>> hosts file is not recommended. >>>>> >>>>> I haven't seen your regionsconfig.ini, but make sure that the address >>>>> entry contains your domain name andnot your ip address (internal or >>>>> external) >>>>> >>>>> These are the things I can think of off the top of my head, I hope it >>>>> helps :) >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 9 July 2015 at 13:27, Isis Ophelia < <isisophe...@gmail.com> >>>>> isisophe...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Anyone running diva as standalone HG enabled in own PC? I hope you >>>>>> have a solution for my problem. >>>>>> >>>>>> System: Windows 8.1 >>>>>> Diva (OpenSim 0.8.1 post-fixes) Added 5/26/201 >>>>>> Mowes: for mysql + php + apache >>>>>> Windows Firewall: Inbound rules to open ports TCP + UDP 9100-9106 >>>>>> >>>>> ===> Also needs to forward 9250-9255 >>>>> >>>>>> Router: forwarding ports TCP + UDP 9100-9106 >>>>>> >>>>> ===> Also needs to forward 9250-9255 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> DynDNS: noip with installed updater software in this pc >>>>>> >>>>>> Diva installation and viewer in the same LAN PC >>>>>> hosts: added in the hosts file this line: 127.0.0.1 >>>>>> arcanavirtual.noip.me >>>>>> >>>>> ===> Adding a loopback to localhost (127.0.0.1) as the domain name can >>>>> be problematic. >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Name of the Standalone: Arcana Magic >>>>>> With login url: <http://arcanavirtual.noip.me:9100/> >>>>>> http://arcanavirtual.noip.me:9100/ >>>>>> >>>>>> Set Home Position in the default region. >>>>>> >>>>>> I can log to my standalone. >>>>>> I can teleport to different other HG grids (have tested Metropolis, >>>>>> OsGrid, Digiworldz) >>>>>> But I never arrive when teleporting back home. >>>>>> >>>>>> Console shows these messages: >>>>>> 11:10:23 - [GATEKEEPER SERVICE]: Login request for Isis.Ophelia >>>>>> @arcanavirtual.n >>>>>> oip.me @ http://arcanavirtual.noip.me:9100/ >>>>>> (1b77be9b-248e-400b-a4ca-499d0aa06d7 >>>>>> 7) at b773f2f0-0755-4542-9772-cad2b9add4b3 using viewer Avination >>>>>> 0.5.0.6219, ch >>>>>> annel Avination, IP 192.168.2.10, Mac >>>>>> 469947894f9e298a7726b4a58ff7bf9f, Id0 f33e >>>>>> 5e6cd69709d805b47dabf4089ab2, Teleport Flags: ViaHome. From region >>>>>> Nile Goddess >>>>>> (2f7ad640-21a9-0e0e-fb41-db1ed7fe9517) @ >>>>>> http://login.digiworldz.com:8002/ >>>>>> 11:10:23 - [SCENE]: Region Arcana Magic authenticated and authorized >>>>>> incoming ch >>>>>> ild agent Isis Ophelia 1b77be9b-248e-400b-a4ca-499d0aa06d77 (circuit >>>>>> code 280539 >>>>>> 970) >>>>>> 11:10:44 - [SCENE]: Found presence Isis Ophelia >>>>>> 1b77be9b-248e-400b-a4ca-499d0aa0 >>>>>> 6d77 unexpectedly still child in Arcana Magic >>>>>> 11:10:44 - [LOGHTTP]: Slow handling of 86 PUT >>>>>> /agent/1b77be9b-248e-400b-a4ca-499 >>>>>> d0aa06d77/ from 38.130.222.165:57688 took 20094ms >>>>>> 11:11:06 - [SCENE]: Found presence Isis Ophelia >>>>>> 1b77be9b-248e-400b-a4ca-499d0aa0 >>>>>> 6d77 unexpectedly still child in Arcana Magic >>>>>> 11:11:06 - [LOGHTTP]: Slow handling of 87 PUT >>>>>> /agent/1b77be9b-248e-400b-a4ca-499 >>>>>> d0aa06d77/ from 38.130.222.165:57698 took 20062ms >>>>>> >>>>>> ======================== >>>>>> Before I had configured MyWorld.ini and RegionConfig.ini with >>>>>> >>>>>> http_listener_port = 9250 and 6 regions with Ports 9250-9255 >>>>>> >>>>> ====> Which address do you use in RegionConfig.ini? do you use your >>>>> IP address or your domain name? It must be the domain name as in >>>>> arcanavirtual.noip.me >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> I noticed that when I hyper-teleported to another grid, over my head >>>>>> will show: >>>>>> isis.ophe...@arcanavirtual.noip.me:9000 <----- not 9250 >>>>>> and at the next start of Diva the port changed again to: >>>>>> isis.ophe...@arcanavirtual.noip.me:9100 <----- not 9250 >>>>>> >>>>>> ====> <http://isis.ophe...@arcanavirtual.noip.me:9100> >>>>> isis.ophe...@arcanavirtual.noip.me:9100 is correct, since that's your >>>>> grid address, not your sim address >>>>> >>>>>> So I changed MyWorld.ini and RegionConfig.ini to have now the >>>>>> listener Port to be 9100 and Regions Ports are 9100-9105 >>>>>> >>>>>> Since 2 weeks troubleshooting this installation with no sucess. >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks for reading. >>>>>> >>>>>> Isis Ophelia >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Opensim-users mailing list >>>>>> Opensim-users@opensimulator.org >>>>>> http://opensimulator.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/opensim-users >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Opensim-users mailing list >>>>> Opensim-users@opensimulator.org >>>>> http://opensimulator.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/opensim-users >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Opensim-users mailing >>>> listOpensim-users@opensimulator.orghttp://opensimulator.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/opensim-users >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Opensim-users mailing list >>>> Opensim-users@opensimulator.org >>>> http://opensimulator.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/opensim-users >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Opensim-users mailing >>> listOpensim-users@opensimulator.orghttp://opensimulator.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/opensim-users >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Opensim-users mailing list >>> Opensim-users@opensimulator.org >>> http://opensimulator.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/opensim-users >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Opensim-users mailing list >>> Opensim-users@opensimulator.org >>> http://opensimulator.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/opensim-users >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Opensim-users mailing list >> Opensim-users@opensimulator.org >> http://opensimulator.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/opensim-users >> >> >
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