Hi Bruno, Will the Orkut team work on resolving the Adsense crawler problems? In order for app developers to support Orkut we need to make money on the platform. To make money we need targeted ads. If Google's Adsense crawler can't crawl pages then those ads have very low rpm.
At one point I know the Google Adsense for Games team was using Orkut user profile data to target ads on application pages. I know because we use Adsense for Games on BuddyPoke.. But I'm guessing, based on the drop of rpm that Orkut is now completely blocking Adsense's crawlers, including Adsense for Games? Why can't Google Adsense servers access Google Orkut pages? Please help? Thanks Dave @ BuddyPoke On Thursday, April 12, 2012 12:54:30 PM UTC-7, anatoly wrote: > > Hi Bruno > > > Following this thread discussion let me clarify the main issue: > > *.orkut.gmodules.com/gadgets > > urls are behind a login so adsense crawler can't access these pages while > trying to crawl adsense ads on app pages. > If it is unable to crawl using adsense ads is not effective on app pages. > > Is there any workaround? > It is impossible to define a crawler login for google hosted urls in > adsense configuration. > > > thanks > > > > > On Thursday, March 15, 2012 10:37:56 PM UTC+2, Bruno Oliveira (Google) > wrote: > >> Hello, >> >> So, I've been discussing this with the engineers here. Adsense crawlers >> don't crawl over authenticated pages (right?). So, even if >> /Application.aspx were not blocked, it would not be able to crawl it. So, >> isn't this warning spurious? That is, the fact that Application.aspx is >> blocked shouldn't alter your ads quality at all... >> >> Or am I mistaken? >> >> Thanks! >> >> - >> Bruno Oliveira (Google) >> >> >> On Monday, March 12, 2012 6:42:35 PM UTC-3, Bruno Oliveira (Google) wrote: >>> >>> Our team is looking into the issue with the additional information you >>> provided! I'll update the thread as soon as I hear news. >>> >>> Thanks! >>> >>> - >>> Bruno Oliveira (Google) >>> >>> >>> On Thursday, March 8, 2012 2:39:22 PM UTC-3, anatoly wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi Bruno >>>> >>>> >>>> thanks for the update >>>> >>>> Please update this thread if you make any decisions or changes about >>>> this. >>>> I think it crawls the page where the ad markup appears plus sometimes >>>> the parent page if it the former is iframe. >>>> Adsense cralwer errors are reported to the publisher, so I can see >>>> where it fails. If you need any info let mwe know. >>>> >>>> >>>> thanks >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Thursday, March 8, 2012 7:04:08 PM UTC+2, Bruno Oliveira (Google) >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hello, >>>>> >>>>> Thanks for the explanation, it clarified the finer points of how the >>>>> adsense crawler works which I wasn't aware of. I assumed it crawled the >>>>> landing page only, not the page on which the ad appears. We'll look into >>>>> it. Thanks! >>>>> >>>>> - >>>>> Bruno Oliveira (Google) >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Wednesday, March 7, 2012 6:32:44 PM UTC-3, anatoly wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Any update on the issue? >>>>>> The minimum orkut team should do is fix the bug of requestNavigateTo >>>>>> implementation >>>>>> >>>>>> Currently requestNavigateTo redirects to /Application.aspx instead of >>>>>> /Application and it blocks adsense crawler. >>>>>> I'd suggest to work closely with adsense team, you're the same >>>>>> company, I can't coordinate your internal cooperation. >>>>>> Just ask Adsense team how much crawler errors do they get on >>>>>> google.com.br, I bet there are billions. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Please fix and update, otherwise it makes counterproductive to use >>>>>> adsense on apps. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> thanks >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Tuesday, January 3, 2012 10:08:35 PM UTC+2, Bruno Oliveira >>>>>> (Google) wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> We do not plan to modify robots.txt at the moment... but as far as I >>>>>>> understand, the crawler would not need to crawl over /Application, >>>>>>> because >>>>>>> /PublicAppInfo does *not* automatically redirect to /Application >>>>>>> unless the user is logged in and has the app installed. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Since the crawler is not an Orkut user, this redirection would not >>>>>>> happen and it would never see /Application or any other page. At least >>>>>>> that's how it *should* happen :-) I've tested /PublicAppInfo myself >>>>>>> while not logged in (which mimics the way the adsense crawler would see >>>>>>> it) >>>>>>> and indeed it does not perform any redirections that I could tell... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> - >>>>>>> Bruno Oliveira (Google) >>>>>>> >>>>>> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "orkut Developer Forum" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/opensocial-orkut/-/5yg9D8cbC9sJ. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/opensocial-orkut?hl=en.
