Hello, We are looking into the issue but we don't have a position to share on how/when this issue will be addressed yet. The Orkut team has debated it a lot with the AdSense team since the beginning of this thread and we'll keep you updated on the progress.
Thanks for your input and continued support! - Bruno Oliveira (Google) On Wednesday, July 11, 2012 4:12:58 PM UTC-3, anatoly wrote: > > +1 > > > On Wednesday, July 11, 2012 9:59:35 PM UTC+3, davew wrote: > >> Hi Bruno, >> >> Will the Orkut team work on resolving the Adsense crawler problems? In >> order for app developers to support Orkut we need to make money on the >> platform. To make money we need targeted ads. If Google's Adsense crawler >> can't crawl pages then those ads have very low rpm. >> >> At one point I know the Google Adsense for Games team was using Orkut >> user profile data to target ads on application pages. I know because we use >> Adsense for Games on BuddyPoke.. But I'm guessing, based on the drop of rpm >> that Orkut is now completely blocking Adsense's crawlers, including Adsense >> for Games? Why can't Google Adsense servers access Google Orkut pages? >> >> Please help? >> >> Thanks >> >> Dave @ BuddyPoke >> >> >> On Thursday, April 12, 2012 12:54:30 PM UTC-7, anatoly wrote: >>> >>> Hi Bruno >>> >>> >>> Following this thread discussion let me clarify the main issue: >>> >>> *.orkut.gmodules.com/gadgets >>> >>> urls are behind a login so adsense crawler can't access these pages >>> while trying to crawl adsense ads on app pages. >>> If it is unable to crawl using adsense ads is not effective on app pages. >>> >>> Is there any workaround? >>> It is impossible to define a crawler login for google hosted urls in >>> adsense configuration. >>> >>> >>> thanks >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Thursday, March 15, 2012 10:37:56 PM UTC+2, Bruno Oliveira (Google) >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Hello, >>>> >>>> So, I've been discussing this with the engineers here. Adsense crawlers >>>> don't crawl over authenticated pages (right?). So, even if >>>> /Application.aspx were not blocked, it would not be able to crawl it. So, >>>> isn't this warning spurious? That is, the fact that Application.aspx is >>>> blocked shouldn't alter your ads quality at all... >>>> >>>> Or am I mistaken? >>>> >>>> Thanks! >>>> >>>> - >>>> Bruno Oliveira (Google) >>>> >>>> >>>> On Monday, March 12, 2012 6:42:35 PM UTC-3, Bruno Oliveira (Google) >>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Our team is looking into the issue with the additional information you >>>>> provided! I'll update the thread as soon as I hear news. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks! >>>>> >>>>> - >>>>> Bruno Oliveira (Google) >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Thursday, March 8, 2012 2:39:22 PM UTC-3, anatoly wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Hi Bruno >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> thanks for the update >>>>>> >>>>>> Please update this thread if you make any decisions or changes about >>>>>> this. >>>>>> I think it crawls the page where the ad markup appears plus sometimes >>>>>> the parent page if it the former is iframe. >>>>>> Adsense cralwer errors are reported to the publisher, so I can see >>>>>> where it fails. If you need any info let mwe know. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> thanks >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Thursday, March 8, 2012 7:04:08 PM UTC+2, Bruno Oliveira (Google) >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hello, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks for the explanation, it clarified the finer points of how the >>>>>>> adsense crawler works which I wasn't aware of. I assumed it crawled the >>>>>>> landing page only, not the page on which the ad appears. We'll look >>>>>>> into >>>>>>> it. Thanks! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> - >>>>>>> Bruno Oliveira (Google) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Wednesday, March 7, 2012 6:32:44 PM UTC-3, anatoly wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Any update on the issue? >>>>>>>> The minimum orkut team should do is fix the bug of >>>>>>>> requestNavigateTo implementation >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Currently requestNavigateTo redirects to /Application.aspx instead >>>>>>>> of /Application and it blocks adsense crawler. >>>>>>>> I'd suggest to work closely with adsense team, you're the same >>>>>>>> company, I can't coordinate your internal cooperation. >>>>>>>> Just ask Adsense team how much crawler errors do they get on >>>>>>>> google.com.br, I bet there are billions. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Please fix and update, otherwise it makes counterproductive to use >>>>>>>> adsense on apps. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> thanks >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Tuesday, January 3, 2012 10:08:35 PM UTC+2, Bruno Oliveira >>>>>>>> (Google) wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> We do not plan to modify robots.txt at the moment... but as far as >>>>>>>>> I understand, the crawler would not need to crawl over /Application, >>>>>>>>> because /PublicAppInfo does *not* automatically redirect to >>>>>>>>> /Application unless the user is logged in and has the app installed. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Since the crawler is not an Orkut user, this redirection would not >>>>>>>>> happen and it would never see /Application or any other page. At >>>>>>>>> least >>>>>>>>> that's how it *should* happen :-) I've tested /PublicAppInfo >>>>>>>>> myself while not logged in (which mimics the way the adsense crawler >>>>>>>>> would >>>>>>>>> see it) and indeed it does not perform any redirections that I could >>>>>>>>> tell... >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Thanks! >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> - >>>>>>>>> Bruno Oliveira (Google) >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "orkut Developer Forum" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/opensocial-orkut/-/gFtjHHLr5B4J. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/opensocial-orkut?hl=en.
