+1 On Wednesday, July 11, 2012 9:59:35 PM UTC+3, davew wrote:
> Hi Bruno, > > Will the Orkut team work on resolving the Adsense crawler problems? In > order for app developers to support Orkut we need to make money on the > platform. To make money we need targeted ads. If Google's Adsense crawler > can't crawl pages then those ads have very low rpm. > > At one point I know the Google Adsense for Games team was using Orkut user > profile data to target ads on application pages. I know because we use > Adsense for Games on BuddyPoke.. But I'm guessing, based on the drop of rpm > that Orkut is now completely blocking Adsense's crawlers, including Adsense > for Games? Why can't Google Adsense servers access Google Orkut pages? > > Please help? > > Thanks > > Dave @ BuddyPoke > > > On Thursday, April 12, 2012 12:54:30 PM UTC-7, anatoly wrote: >> >> Hi Bruno >> >> >> Following this thread discussion let me clarify the main issue: >> >> *.orkut.gmodules.com/gadgets >> >> urls are behind a login so adsense crawler can't access these pages while >> trying to crawl adsense ads on app pages. >> If it is unable to crawl using adsense ads is not effective on app pages. >> >> Is there any workaround? >> It is impossible to define a crawler login for google hosted urls in >> adsense configuration. >> >> >> thanks >> >> >> >> >> On Thursday, March 15, 2012 10:37:56 PM UTC+2, Bruno Oliveira (Google) >> wrote: >> >>> Hello, >>> >>> So, I've been discussing this with the engineers here. Adsense crawlers >>> don't crawl over authenticated pages (right?). So, even if >>> /Application.aspx were not blocked, it would not be able to crawl it. So, >>> isn't this warning spurious? That is, the fact that Application.aspx is >>> blocked shouldn't alter your ads quality at all... >>> >>> Or am I mistaken? >>> >>> Thanks! >>> >>> - >>> Bruno Oliveira (Google) >>> >>> >>> On Monday, March 12, 2012 6:42:35 PM UTC-3, Bruno Oliveira (Google) >>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Our team is looking into the issue with the additional information you >>>> provided! I'll update the thread as soon as I hear news. >>>> >>>> Thanks! >>>> >>>> - >>>> Bruno Oliveira (Google) >>>> >>>> >>>> On Thursday, March 8, 2012 2:39:22 PM UTC-3, anatoly wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hi Bruno >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> thanks for the update >>>>> >>>>> Please update this thread if you make any decisions or changes about >>>>> this. >>>>> I think it crawls the page where the ad markup appears plus sometimes >>>>> the parent page if it the former is iframe. >>>>> Adsense cralwer errors are reported to the publisher, so I can see >>>>> where it fails. If you need any info let mwe know. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> thanks >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Thursday, March 8, 2012 7:04:08 PM UTC+2, Bruno Oliveira (Google) >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hello, >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks for the explanation, it clarified the finer points of how the >>>>>> adsense crawler works which I wasn't aware of. I assumed it crawled the >>>>>> landing page only, not the page on which the ad appears. We'll look into >>>>>> it. Thanks! >>>>>> >>>>>> - >>>>>> Bruno Oliveira (Google) >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Wednesday, March 7, 2012 6:32:44 PM UTC-3, anatoly wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Any update on the issue? >>>>>>> The minimum orkut team should do is fix the bug of requestNavigateTo >>>>>>> implementation >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Currently requestNavigateTo redirects to /Application.aspx instead >>>>>>> of /Application and it blocks adsense crawler. >>>>>>> I'd suggest to work closely with adsense team, you're the same >>>>>>> company, I can't coordinate your internal cooperation. >>>>>>> Just ask Adsense team how much crawler errors do they get on >>>>>>> google.com.br, I bet there are billions. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Please fix and update, otherwise it makes counterproductive to use >>>>>>> adsense on apps. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> thanks >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Tuesday, January 3, 2012 10:08:35 PM UTC+2, Bruno Oliveira >>>>>>> (Google) wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> We do not plan to modify robots.txt at the moment... but as far as >>>>>>>> I understand, the crawler would not need to crawl over /Application, >>>>>>>> because /PublicAppInfo does *not* automatically redirect to >>>>>>>> /Application unless the user is logged in and has the app installed. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Since the crawler is not an Orkut user, this redirection would not >>>>>>>> happen and it would never see /Application or any other page. At least >>>>>>>> that's how it *should* happen :-) I've tested /PublicAppInfo >>>>>>>> myself while not logged in (which mimics the way the adsense crawler >>>>>>>> would >>>>>>>> see it) and indeed it does not perform any redirections that I could >>>>>>>> tell... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thanks! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> - >>>>>>>> Bruno Oliveira (Google) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "orkut Developer Forum" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/opensocial-orkut/-/U4lQxpS83ggJ. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/opensocial-orkut?hl=en.
