> Let's be clear that NDMP, as a standard, is not evolving anymore.
> 
> The existing NDMP Clients are all backup software, which has not
> been Sun's business to develop. If we want to involve our OEM
> backup software vendors in enhanced security extensions to NDMP
> (this is doable with the right business case) the protocol, wouldn't
> that still be a different ARC case with requirements on this project,
> but as a follow-on release?
> 
> -- mark

Yes.  More generally, we have *zero* control over clients: they are
existing backup apps, and the entire objective here is to be able
to support backup from these *existing* control applications, not
some new version of them we hope to induce the ISVs to release.

These are both business and technical constraints on this project,
so please keep them in mind for any discussion: the objective is
to support backup via an existing protocol (no matter how stupid)
via an existing set of clients.  Furthermore, NDMP is a backup
control protocol which is, in enterprise practice, exercised over
secured administrative networks inside of enterprises.  This is
what existing vendors ship, what existing customers use, and is part
of a set of solutions Sun is currently excluded from providing
in part due to our not having this project integrated yet.

Discussion of how to make this thing properly secured within the defined
set of constraints is useful and productive, as long as it does not
venture outside of those constraints into redefining the protocol
or its clients.  (Such discussion is useful as well, but it belongs
in an ARC opinion offering guidance for future backup technology
invented by Sun and its community, not as instructions for the
deliverables associated with this project.)

-Mike

-- 
Mike Shapiro, Solaris Kernel Development. blogs.sun.com/mws/

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