> > Sorry we don't have that information and we are unlikely to
> > be able to provide a definitive answer.  Some clients use
> > only plain-text, some use cram-md5.  ndmpd supports multiple
> > versions of the protocol and there are may be some older
> > clients that use plain-text but newer revisions of those
> > same clients use v4 and cram-md5.
>  
> I took a look at the ndmp protocol spec.  It looks like the NDMP v4 spec
> allows a client to query the server for the list of supported
> authentication algorithms.  But I was hoping to get data on actual
> observed v4 client behavior when connecting to a server which did both.
>
> ...
> 
> So I'm torn.

Bill,

Your comments are reasonable, balanced, and germane.  But here's the deal:
Sun has a business problem right now which is that N other competitors
on the market are *shipping* this technology, and we're not.  And we need
this technology as part of making Solaris a better storage platform.
I've been watching this discussion loop around for weeks now because I see
the ARC throwing out reasonable, well-argued issues, but then failing to
help the project team reach closure.  At the end of the day, there may not
be a perfect answer but there are *existing* answers that customers have
deployed in datacenters that do work.  Can you please (and whomever else
has an opinion) stop looping and get in a room with the project team
and come to a best guess as to the best answers and complete this case?

If you're not willing to do that, then my suggestion is that you just
outlined a very reasonable set of proposals (A) and (B): have the ARC
members vote and write the opinion with a TCR saying do (a) or (b).

-Mike

-- 
Mike Shapiro, Solaris Kernel Development. blogs.sun.com/mws/

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