Gary Winiger wrote:
>>>     I don't see the default values discussed in the updated
>>>     spec.  IMO, these seem important to the user experience
>>>     and relevant to the case.  When Solaris first installed,
>>>     what will occur if the Lid is closed, what is the LCD brightness,
>>>     what action does the power button have? 
>>
>>The LSARC GPM case handles the GUI which really sets the default action.
> 
> 
>       From my comments there:  "the PSARC GPM case is implying that the
>       LSARC GPM [2007/702] case is to specify the the default values
>       for lid, brightness, power and by implication CPUFreq.
>       IMO, that is backwards, and still needs to be worked out."

The PSARC case does not imply it will set the defaults on a freshly
installed system.  My comments above means exactly that the GPM GUI
which is handled by the LSARC case will set the defaults.

> 
>       They are not specified there.  Indeed IMO, that is backwards.
>       The LSARC case has no privilege to set anything.  How can it
>       define defaults?  

The LSARC case need privileges to do something like "nothing" when the
lid closes or do nothing for brightness?

IMO, one of the things this case needs to
>       do is provide the defaults for a freshly installed system.
>       I'd expect it to be this case.
> 

See above.

> 
>>Lid -- the default action on lid close is to do nothing.
>>Power button -- the default action is to ask the user similiar to what
>>happens now.  It will display gnome-sys-suspend GUI when the power
>>button is pressed.
>>Brightness -- Nothing will happen, i.e. no change in brightness.
> 
> 
>       Are these the specified defaults for what this case will
>       supply?

No.  I was just answering your question for your information.  These
defaults are not handled by this case.

> 
>       Now on to a real question with Lid:  The actions from the
>       LSARC GPM case says: "such as blank screen,suspend,hibernate,shutdown.
>       Suspend and hibernate depends on HAL interfaces, particularly
>       blanking screen relies on X11 extension DPMS."
>       I don't see blank screen in the spec of this case.

The GPM GUI does the calls into DPMS.  It doesn't rely on this case.

> 
>       And most importantly, it would seem to me that entering
>       screen lock would be a required action in the set of selectable
>       actions -- and from a security perspective the default.
>       It certainly is a selectable option on MacOS:
>       "Require password to wake this computer from sleep or screen
>       saver" is what it is called.

Screen locking is not required.  What policy are you referencing that
makes it a requirement?

> 
>       How does this case provide for a screen lock on lid switching?
> 
> 
>>>     Perhaps parochically, I also don't see why the policy, which I
>>>     believe is implemented in HAL, should not just depend on PSARC/2008/034
>>>     Defining Workstation Owner Infrastructure.  And thus this
>>>     case have a dependency to that one.  Afterall, this/that is
>>>     exactly why 2008/034 was submitted.  It seems to me implementing
>>>     your own /dev/console and authorization tests side step the
>>>     architecuture of allowing the Administrator to have control.
> 
> 
>       [relocated -- really not architectural]
> 
>>When this project was started, PSARC/2008/034 Defining Workstation Owner
>>Infrastructure wasn't on the horizon at all.
> 
> 
>       I won't argue timing with you.  It's been on the horizon for
>       quite some time (years infact) and under active discussion
>       including Randy and the x86power team in my mail log since 11 Dec.
>       Indeed this was one of the motivating cases for not delaying the
>       work any longer.

I meant concrete stuff, not talk.

Phi

> 
> 
>>I'll contact you separately about your case plans.
> 
> 
>       My plan is to do the work as it fits with the other things
>       I've been tasked to do.  IMO, your plan needs to be dependent
>       on that work.  As I said, if your management doesn't like the
>       pace at which I'm able to deliver, they can provide resources
>       and/or discuss other options with my management.
>       
> 
>>>     Finally perhaps a wording nit:  "*Will consult with the audit
>>>     team to enable auditing."  seems somewhat weak.  Will meet
>>>     the Solaris Audit policy,
>>>     http://opensolaris.org/os/community/arc/policies/audit-policy
>>>     seem more appropriate.
>>
>>Ok, I will change the wording.
> 
> 
>       So you'll be meeting with the Audit project team sometime
>       soon ;-) and wanting input/resources from them (i.e., me).
> 
> Gary..


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