James Carlson wrote:
> Roland Mainz writes:
> > Sarcastic comment of the day: Yeah... I remember how it was done "right"
> > ([1]) in the case of /usr/bin/ksh ... =:-)
> 
> You'll need to try harder to get a plonk.  :-/

Erm... for the log: It wasn't my intention to offend anyone... I just
tried to wave half-madly with the sign which says "please sync with
other maintainers (and if you fail try harder...) ...) ...

> > > and don't have to worry so much about any costs due to
> > > forking from or contributing to the upstream ... because there
> > > effectively isn't one.
> >
> > Groan... see above... just because the "head" (=maintainer, developer)
> > is gone doesn't mean the rest of the body (= distributions, users) is
> > dead, too.
> 
> Not breaking the user experience *is* a good reason to avoid some
> changes.

IMO sometimes this was done too often (for example: see /usr/bin/grep
vs. /usr/xpg4/bin/grep ... but maybe there is a slim chanche to clean
this up in the near future...) ...

> It might not be a good reason to avoid other changes.
> 
> The point I'm making is that there is no one right answer here, and
> simply asserting "I'm FOSS, so I get a free ride!" is deeply wrong in
> terms of overall system architecture.

I fully agree with that ([1]) ... :-)

[1]=My first list of questions would be: Ok... you're "FOSS"... but are
you:
1. CSI-compilant (e.g. does it support multibyte characters (correctly))
2. 64bit clean
3. conform to any related parts of the POSIX/SUS spec

(Note that some of the stuff in /usr/gnu/ horribly fails tests [1] and
[3] while some of the Solaris codebase fails [2] (which forces any
OpenSolaris port to add artificial 32bit support even if the hardware is
not intended to support 32bit (IMO a shame... ;-( )))

> That can't be the only answer.

Right...

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Bye,
Roland

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