>> > > > It first requires a sign of will from people inside Sun/Oracle as we >> > > > the
>> Because my experience has been that if you sit down and write the code >> (including the bits to get it to build and package properly in ON) and >> the ARC case, participate fully in the code review and work it through >> to the end then you can get code in. It is pretty clear that Sun (ahem, Oracle) doesn't care about the world of OpenSolaris utilities - after all, they laid off the entire team that was supporting the code. As such, it comes as no surprise to me that nobody else is interested in star and other community driven utilities. Face it, some code (a change internal to ON...) is easy to find a sponsor for, while for others (a new KDE desktop, for example) it is blatantly impossible. It is also pretty clear that Oracle will do whatever Oracle wants with Solaris - they have never implied otherwise. For better or worse, the message coming from Oracle nowadays is that they are happy if we want to help them work on stuff that they are also working on, but that they have minimal interest in anything else. I believe most of these tensions stem from the fact that the codebase (ON and the other consolidations) is tightly tied to the proprietary OpenSolaris Distro in ways that don't equally apply to Belinix, OSUnix, Schillix, EON, Nexenta and the rest, so it is hard (impossible?) for Oracle to distinguish between "good for their distro" and "good for the community". Of course, whenever there is any confusion, "good for Oracle" trumps the community. -John
