Steven,
My sense from following this conversation is that you've listened to
what the Sun folks have said about the pace, direction, and the current
process (e.g. bug fixing, CAB, SCM), and yet you're still unconvinced
that we're moving forward as quickly as we can.
What advice would you give us, to help demonstrate more forward
progress in these areas? (I promise I won't answer with point-by-point
counter-examples.... I really want to understand how we're being
perceived right now. :-)
Mike
S Destika wrote:
Thanks for the long explanation.
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My concern is that things are not moving at a good enough pace, they are not going in the right direction and the slow pace is due to Sun's highly bureaucratic governance. Secondly the process isn't open and inviting enough - The complete Solaris development has to be opened up - Sun Engineers need to develop and discuss in the open - otherwise how will aspiring folks get to know the technology and understand the development model?
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Now people are saying here that it is natural enough for such a project to take time to be opened up fully - but no one has clearly explained exactly what is taking time. People have done amazing things in less time if you look else where.
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Java vs. .NET - I think Microsoft has done a decent job with .NET in short
time. Look at the time Sun is taking in implementing a nice native looking GUI
in Java. Look at how much time Sun took just to implement shared classes ?
Apple had to do it. The whole JSR process is again highly formal, time
consuming and burdensome. Sun needs to find a faster and efficient way of doing
things. Waiting years for things to happen isn't my definition of success. Sun
should be able to take help from community to fix things as quickly as possible.
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Ok so lastly, I am hoping CAB members will be able to speed up things and
garner interest from lots of developers and we will see a lot of action in
short time.
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