Joerg, we are sad to see you react in this way to this discussion - after all that is what it is.

We actually think Sven is making some very important points about how developers feel about their contributions being used for different purposes. He is grounding his discussion in his personal experience and he has tied this directly to the topic. He was ask by Simon to offer his perspective on a Debian-Solaris menagerie. We think he is doing a good job.

The whole open source development environment works because of the efforts of thousands of people like Sven. Admittedly, Solaris did not grow up like Linux, but Linux got to where it is and it is still FREE (as in beer and speech) for at lot less than it cost Sun to get Solaris where it is today. We have something to learn about that. We hope the usefulness of Sven's discussion was not lost in the melee.

These lists have a way of touching on sensitive areas that if we can't do here we certainly won't be able to do so in a broader world.

Sincerely,
Raquel and Bill


On Sep 8, 2005, at 2:54 AM, Joerg Schilling wrote:

Sven Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


In other words: if you like milk, don't kill the cow....


Unless the cow is sick and produce unusable sour milk or whatever, and there
is plenty of other sane ones :)


The more I read from you on this topic, the more I get the impression that
you don't really understand what you are talking about - sorry.


Don't get personal and calm down please. You are clearly taking this
discussion on a personal basis, and put all the blame on the other party, and don't even imagine that for some strange reason the author could be making a
mistake when searching justice or whatever.


    I was _not_ personal and I don't need to calm down.


If you however don't write us new arguments but just repeat things we did
discuss before, what would be the sense of such a discussion?

What you do is to constantly attack this list with a single statement from a single person from "Debian legal". You fail to prove that this should be taken as an official statement from Debian but you continue to act as if this (anti OSS) statement was an official statement from the Debian project.

So please either prove that this _is_ an official statement from Debian
or stop your mails on this topic.


Jörg

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