Guys, let me clarify a little bit on what GNU/Solaris distro is.
The idea behind it is simple: do not re-invent the wheel and try to re-use existing 17000 high quality Debian packages, Debian infrastracture(read Dpkg, APT repositories, Debootstraps, installation program, utilities, developer's policy and so on) and Debian developer's if you will. GNU/Solaris distribution uses OpenSolaris kernel and runtime(libc). So, it runs any existing Solaris software without modifications. In addition to that(and this is what differes it from SchiliX and BeliniX), it greatly simplifies porting effort for pure Linux applications and packages, since it provides real Debian environment. As you might know, Debian(as of today) is the engine for 30+ "child" projects. GNU/Solaris is practically based on latest Ubuntu/Breezy bits (except few imporant packages derived directly from Debian) and basically offers similar options for novice users. GNU/Solaris has been a private project for the last 8 months and will be publically available(including source code for everything) in early November, once we are done with more/less functional web-portal. We will probably enable early access for developers next week. If you would like to get guest password and participate in further development you could send me a request e-mail. Erast On Sun, 2005-10-23 at 14:07 -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >Jake Maciejewski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > >Let us face reality... > > > >Belenix has been developped by starting with SchilliX > >and modifying it. > > Um ... I'd strongly object to this statement! It is correct > that 2 ideas were taken from the earlier discussions on this > list: > > * Using the math library from FreeBSD > * Using the aperture driver as a replacement for xsvc > > But that is all there is to it. Apart from this I have NOT > touched a single bit of work coming out of the SchilliX project. > I did not base my work on the SchilliX binaries. When I started > there was no documentation available on how to create an > OpenSolaris LiveCD. No build tools or scripts were available that > can generate an ISO image from OpenSolaris binaries. > > I have spent countless hours of effort starting with understanding > x86 boot from scratch. So please do not state misconceptions. > > Because both the projects have, to some extent, similar aims and > started from the same base they are bound to end up with similar > approaches to solve the same issues, especially where options are > limited. But to say that one project has depended on the other just > because of these similatrities is wrong. > > In fact I started my work with the official Nevada builds that go > into Solaris Express and built an initial ramdisk-only boot environment. > Later on I moved to OpenSolaris. If one reads my blog one will immediately > see to what extent I investigated the issues and how I arrived at solutions > and subsequently improved them. > > > > >GNUSolaris is currently no more than an annunced distro. > > > >www.gnusolaris.org is unreachable and the announcement > >was not clear enough to understand what GNUSolaris will be. > >Once we know more about GNUSolaris, we will be able to judge based > >on it's real features. > > > >I would asume that they take the Solaris kernel and use the > >same Debian userland than Debian uses for Debian/Linux. > >If this is true, then it is still uncler whether they use > >glibc or the standard libc. > > > >If they use the Debian userland, GNUSolaris will most likely not > >what Solaris users expect and GNUSolaris will not pass an OpenSolaris > >compliance test > > A GNU/Solaris distro is just that. It is not intended to be a > Solaris compatible distro. There is a lot of interest in this sort > of an environment as well. > > > > >If they use the Solaris userland, and only add other free software, > >GNUSolaris will be nothing different than SchilliX except that is less > >probable that it will pass an OpenSolaris compliance test and key > >features from Solaris (e.g. zones) will probably never work. > > Zones can be made to work. Obviously even a GNU/Solaris distro cannot > throw away core OpenSolaris features like Zones or SMF. One of the aims > of BeleniX is to also provide the option of a GNU userland environment > or even that of a GNU Zone. > > Regards, > Moinak. > > > > >With these constraints, it is obvious that there is a need to create an own X > >package for SchilliX in the near future. > > > >J?rg > > > >-- > > EMail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (home) J?rg Schilling D-13353 Berlin > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (uni) > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (work) Blog: http://schily.blogspot.com/ > > URL: http://cdrecord.berlios.de/old/private/ > > ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/schily > >_______________________________________________ > >opensolaris-discuss mailing list > >[email protected] > > > _______________________________________________ > opensolaris-discuss mailing list > [email protected] > _______________________________________________ opensolaris-discuss mailing list [email protected]
