Alan DuBoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Monday 21 November 2005 06:37 am, Patrick Mauritz wrote:
> > On Thu, 2005-11-17 at 21:50, Alan DuBoff wrote:
> > > This is currently a problem with all of the distributions on
> > > Solaris/OpenSolaris. Blastwave, pkgsrc, (I suspect) gentoo, sunfreeware,
> > > etc...all build their own userland. GNU/OpenSolaris does the same in it's
> > > own way.
> >
> > this is why I built my own
>
> Right. But ultimately if we want to really work together, it would be nice if
> we had a common set of libraries that everyone could use, and so that we
> shouldn't have so many sets of libs floating around our directories.
I am not sure if a cooperation with a Debain oriented Solaris distribution would
be feasable. I expect just too many incompatibilities.
I am not shure whether the belenix people are interested in a cooperation...
I did see paralleles in the basic ideas of SchilliX and Blastwave quite some
time ago and I found the main problem with Blastwave that it is closed source
and
using an fixed install path (/opt/csw) that is not compatible with an
OpenSolaris distribution like SchilliX that does not need to put things beneath
Sun Solaris but to replace missing software from Sun Solaris. This is why I
started to write the SPS system in hope to be able to use the know how from the
Blastwave packages later.
Note that there is a big difference between patching a piece of software for
Debian or doing the same for Solaris. Debian people don't care whether a patch
breaks this on any OS but Linux. A package created for Linux does not need to
work on Solaris at all.
Well, the result is that about a month ago, I realized that SchilliX and
Blastwave need to cooperate because Blastwave is the only source of packages
that take special care of the needs on Solaris and because SchilliX likes to be
as close to Sun Solaris as possible. As it seems that Dennis is also
interested,
we now need to convince the Blastwave maintainers ;-)
Just a note at the end: If there is not enough information from the people who
created a ported piece of software, it is in many cases better to do the port
again and by yourself :-(
In order to share things there need to be a feeling of openness. It would help
a lot of Sun did have opened the build system that is used to compile the
Open Source software found on Sun Solaris. Unfortunately Sun did not and
it took me a lot of time to e.g. compile the Netscape libraries and libxml2
correct enough. Nobody from the community did ask me about my efforts and
it seems that the other distros prefer a simple aproach instead asking me
for my knoe how and in return sharing their know how.
The fact that Sun did not open those things that in theory _are_ Opensource
already was a real skid. Looking back the time I was working on SchilliX
makes it obvious that about 80% of the time, I was working on things that
in theory should be OpenSourcer already and well documented.....
....I see no quick way out of these problems.
Jörg
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