I'm clear on everything, thank you for your input. :) I think we are talking on 
two different levels and that is why I keep misunderstanding you. Alan and Bev 
got me all sorted out! :P

Respectfully,
David

----- Original Message -----
From: James Carlson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Friday, June 2, 2006 11:37 am
Subject: Re: [osol-discuss] Re: What is OpenSolaris?

> David J. Orman writes:
> > Is it or is it not true that @sun people contribute the majority of
> > the code that is OSOL? I'm pretty sure my comment was fair, and in
> > NO way was it intended as negative/insulting/etc. I have upmost
> > respect for Sun, and I am *trusting* Sun in their intent. This
> > should be viewed as positive.
> 
> It's true ... but it also seems sort of beside the point.  Take a look
> at the makeup of the CAB and then decide.
> 
> > > We've had many official declarations about our intent and 
> direction> > from the highest levels of the company.  If you're not 
> moved by those,
> > > then I doubt that anyone here can help.
> > 
> > Yes, I realize that, but you (again, not attempting to be
> > inflamitory, but you bring this up) stated various things in earlier
> > emails that led me to believe maybe there had been a shift.
> 
> No, there's no "shift" here.
> 
> > It could
> > completely have been my *incorrect* interpretation of your
> > words. I'm not putting blame nor pointing fingers. I'm simply
> > saying, I saw things said that made me believe there was something
> > different going on than what I had heard "officially" prior, and I
> > was needing clarification (again, obviously other people questioning
> > things too, they responded!) 
> 
> I think there must be a misinterpretation here.
> 
> > I understand that now, and that's what I asked in my previous mail
> > directed at you. You replied I was incorrect, OSOL is not SX, is not
> > Solaris.
> 
> Right, and that's still true.  Open Solaris is _not_ Sun Solaris.  It
> is where we (Sun) have, keep, maintain, and develop the source code
> that (at least in part) _becomes_ Solaris.  And also BeleniX and
> several other products.
> 
> Big difference.
> 
> > It is, it's the source/upstream/whatever term you want to call it,
> > but it is SX/Solaris (albiet those releases are delayed.)
> 
> To me, it's like saying that "www.kernel.org" is RedHat.  Really?  How
> is that true?  Sure, RedHat uses (some of) those bits to make their
> distribution.  Sure, if you get something into www.kernel.org, RedHat
> may well pick it up and use it.
> 
> But that doesn't make them the same thing.  One is the source base,
> and the other is a distribution -- a product.
> 
> > I'm not
> > saying OSOL can only be used for those, obviously other distros have
> > sprung up and used OSOL as their basis. Just OSOL in it's stock
> > form, as a project, is what becomes SX and is what becomes
> > Solaris.
> 
> That part's correct.
> 
> > This has been confirmed, and I am clear on things now. Your
> > previous mail to me (at least through my interpretation) told me I
> > was incorrect in this type of thinking.
> 
> It's still incorrect to say that the source repository is the same
> thing as the product.  The distinction is important because there may
> well be lots of products (distributions) that are based on the same
> source, and yet are intentionally *NOT* the same.
> 
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