James Carlson wrote:
David J. Orman writes:
Is it or is it not true that @sun people contribute the majority of
the code that is OSOL? I'm pretty sure my comment was fair, and in
NO way was it intended as negative/insulting/etc. I have upmost
respect for Sun, and I am *trusting* Sun in their intent. This
should be viewed as positive.
It's true ... but it also seems sort of beside the point. Take a look
at the makeup of the CAB and then decide.
I think the original comment was fair.
Keep in mind, though, that those Sun engineers are all now OpenSolaris
developers. The goal is open development without the need to think of
"@sun people" and "non-Sun people." Granted, this will take more time as
more and more people move to working in the open and on new
infrastructure. But you can see that after the initial launch of
OpenSolaris last year, we've been releasing code quite literally all
year long, forming communities and projects, etc. We are opening in
stages, which is the only way to do this. But the *foundation* for being
a self-sustaining community is being constructed. I'm happy you trust
us, and I think our intent will be acknowledged (eventually) by those
who don't.
Sun is serious when it says that the OpenSolaris *community* now
controls OpenSolaris, although I certainly recognize that people outside
the company can't always see that in all areas right now because the
program is not yet complete (Constitution to come, Dev process to come,
SCM to come, more code to come, etc). Most people are cutting us the
slack we need, which is great. The intent is there, the road maps are
there, the infrastructure to support all that is coming, and it's all
being discussed out in the open. All that works for me.
James mentioned the CAB. Good point. The CAB is now the OGB, as per the
OpenSolaris Charter. I think the Charter outlines well the scope of the
OGB -- an independent body representing the OpenSolaris community:
http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/cab/charter/
That's a pretty extraordinary document for a big company to sign off on,
don't you think? It turned a few heads around here, you know.
Non-OpenSolaris heads, I mean. :)
There have been relatively few comments about the Charter from the
community and no comments from observers outside the community -- press,
analysts, competitors, supporters, etc. But it's a big deal. It's quite
literally the creation of a community and the formation of a system of
open governance.
The other half of that is the OpenSolaris Constitution, which will fill
in all the specifics of membership, elections, etc. The current draft is
here: http://opensolaris.org/jive/thread.jspa?threadID=8813&tstart=0
I have absolute confidence that the Constitution will reflect a truly
open, merit-based community model and one where everyone is welcome to
participate at whatever level. Which is good for me since I doubt I'll
be writing code anytime soon. :)
I've enjoyed this thread, so thanks for starting it, David. The issue
comes up from time to time, as it should. Opening something the size of
Solaris (in terms of people and technology) is complex. Certainly way
beyond my brain.
Jim
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