Darren J Moffat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > It is definitely not. I guess that you just did read the man page for cdrw
> > many times but did not do the same for cdrecord.
>
> Well I did use it without ever reading the man page (and neither you are
> I can prove otherwise :-)). I know that with some level of certainty
> since I'm pretty sure I used from bfu archives when it first integrated
> and the man page wasn't integrated yet.
>
> I typed cdrw and it was completely obvious to me what I had to do from
> the very first line of the synopsis. I don't think I had ever read the
> man page for cdrw(1) until this email thread. cdrecord(1) I did
> cdrecord -help and when straight to the man page which was even more
> confusing (see my previous email about how technical it is so very quickly).
Then you did obviously spend a lot of time trying out how it works.
I am sorry, but the online help for cdrw is completely missleading and
not helpful. This is why I did never use cdrw.
> > And the CLI for cdrw is way too complex for such a simple program.
>
> Well we will just have to disagree on that, for me cdrw(1) is very
> simple and its list of options is just right
> for me; even though I hardly use any of them.
For me cdrw is very non-intuitive. Cdrecord on the other side works completely
intuitive and it does not need the non-intuitive options you need with cdrw.
If your sysadmin did setup /etc/default/cdrecord correctly, you only type:
cdrecord filename
or
cdrecord -v filename
The reason why you currently need to add a write mode is caused by the fact hat
my software has a very high stability in CLI and I am just under way to change
the default write mode from TAO to something that is drive specific.
> > BTW: similar things aply to "star" vs. Sun tar. I should make a demo
> > of star on the Sun tech days.... it is intesting that all people who did
> > try to use star for one day will never like to use something else later.
>
> I have used star (years ago and looked at it again recently), however it
> really depends on what your needs are and for me the Sun tar program
> does what I need since I almost never do anything other than:
> $ tar xvf file.tar
> or
> $ gzip -dc foo.tar.gz | tar xvf -
> $ bzip2 -dc foo.tar.bz2 | tar xvf -
> or
> $ tar cf file.tar files/
> or maybe
> $ tar cf - files | (cd foo/bar && tar xvf -)
I really cannot understand why you use these unneeded complex commandlines
if you could use star much more intuitive and simpler:
star xv < foo.tar.gz
star xv < foo.tar.bz2
or
star c files > file.tar
or
star -copy files foo/bar
I get the impression that you do not have a problem because my CLIs are too
complesx but because you did learn the complex CLI of other programs and
expect all programs to be as comple as the one you know.
Jörg
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