Darren J Moffat wrote On 08/15/06 17:26,:
Shawn Walker wrote:
More concerns for OpenSolaris based projects:
It would appear that Google will not allow CDDL licensed projects
(which means any OpenSolaris based projects because of the CDDL) to be
hosted (http://code.google.com/hosting/) at their new Open Source site
(yet). According to Chris DiBona of Google, "We'd have to see a lot
more uptake before we would consider the CDDL for our hosting
environment."
http://groups.google.com.au/group/google-code-hosting/browse_thread/thread/d13e9f848b543309/ae1121407869395e?lnk=arm&hl=en#ae1121407869395e
To be fair, the CDDL isn't the only one excluded. Many other licenses
are also excluded, including any dual/tri/etc. licensed projects
(except Artistic/GPLv2 dual licensed projects oddly enough):
http://code.google.com/hosting/faq.html#limitedlicenses
This is appears to me to be inconsistent behaviour on the part of Google
since they are sponsoring two OpenSolaris projects as part of Google
Summer of Code, both of which are under the CDDL [I'm mentor to one of
these students].
For the MPL to be allowed but CDDL not to be allowed is very strange on
a number of levels. First and most importantly the CDDL is a direct
derivative of the MPL and is now preferred to using the MPL. There are
likely more lines of code available under the CDDL than there are under
the MPL due to OpenSolaris alone, never mind the other projects
available under the CDDL. OpenSolaris is not the only project available
under the CDDL.
[ posted also to the original thread on the google-code-hosting list ].
Even if it's inconsistent (and I believe it is, as you suggest), I still
think we need to realize that it will take more time for people to get
used to the notion that CDDL is a good license and that it's serving the
OpenSolaris community well. We got compared with Linux early on simply
because we are an OS, and they were open first. Tough luck for us, but
that's reality. GPL serves Linux well, and CDDL serves OpenSolaris well.
Why can't it end there?
People waiting for "uptake" will get it in due time. Let's give them the
benefit of the doubt and educate them (as you guys are doing). I think
they need to see more projects using CDDL, and I think they have a valid
point. OpenSolaris uses CDDL. Glassfish uses CDDL. NetBeans uses CDDL.
That's a lot of code right there. And Open Media Commons uses CDDL, but
I'm not sure what else. What am I missing? What non-Sun projects are
using CDDL? That will be the metric that moves people looking for uptake.
By the way, I don't hear the same CDDL vs GPL arguments here in Japan,
and there's a lot of Linux and Solaris here. Perhaps I'm missing the
argument, but from what I understand, CDDL is being welcomed quite well
in this early going.
Jim
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