On Mon, 21 May 2007, Christopher Mahan wrote:
But you do work at Sun, and Sun benefits from Solaris adoption...
Alright, not going there. I appreciate your non-paid efforts. :)
I think it's right "not to go there", although you did.
I would have to suggest that for someone that has come to this community
recentley, and has contributed very little yet, but demanding that Sun do
specific things for you, is just not going to set very well for folks like
me. I'm sorry if you don't like my response, but I have an idea for you to
participate, read on...
That's very nice of your manager doing that. My manager would never
do that. What's the chance of your manager eating the cost of a
recording/transcript then?
I won't say there's a 0 chance, but probably close to it. But this is
where a person like you could help out, and contribute to the community,
by creating the transcript from the recording. How about it? If I have the
recording ready for you, could you work on that the night of the meeting
after we're done?
I am able to do this in the area where I live, maybe coincidence,
but
that's the way it works for me.
Sarcastic, but makes sense.
That wasn't meant to be sarcastic, if I could travel and put on
OpenSolaris user groups, I would. My department has a no-travel-in-effect
at the moment, and we can't spend any $$$s. Because of this, I see very
little that I can do aside from putting more time, or personal funds in
such an effort (which I don't have:-(), towards OpenSolaris. I am limited
on what I can do, just as everyone is, which is all the more reason we
could use some of your efforts, it would help a lot!
I don't want to attend; I want to know what was said.
This sounds like a personal delima. I want you to attend, but can only do
what is within my means to make that happen. Obviously my limitations
don't fit in with your schedule/plans, and there is only so much I can do
about that. I do see this as an opportunity for you to help make it all
better.
Not interested. I can barely get together with my existing friends.
Oh, I didn't realize you have such a hard time getting together with your
existing friends. Expecting others to do work for you is not reasonable as
far as attending user groups, the real advantage is in being there,
talking to people, and being a part of it. Where do you live? Maybe there
is another user group in your area that you can attend. If you're in
SoCal (you mentioned CSUN, I went there and grew up in the SF Valley),
there's a user group that meets in El Segundo.
Taking a step back, though, I see that the Local User Group concept
is showing its age in the tiny digital flat world we live in.
Well, I have been one of the people that has been trying to expand my
meetings over the web, so that more than just local people could join. I
have been the one looking for a software solution that would allow that to
happen. I have suggested to the OpenSolaris folks that it is important for
our community to have such a way to scale the user groups and move away
from existing mediums to do so. Unfortunately it hasn't happened yet, but
trust me, you're preachin' to the choir!;-)
This may also be another area you could help us with. If you have software
that would work for us to have such a broadcasted meeting across the web,
or you could get some opensource software working in that capacity, it
would also benifit not just SVOSUG, but all OpenSolaris user groups within
our community. Again, any help would be appreciated, since this community
actually thrives on the members of it that contribute back. Any help that
you can contribute to this effort, it will make it all stronger as a
whole. In short, there's opportunity for you to make a difference, to make
things better for others that you see as being defecient for yourself.
Hopefully this makes sense.
--
Alan DuBoff - Solaris x86 IHV/OEM Group
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