On Fri, 3 Aug 2007, Matthew Gardiner wrote:

> Yes, it has changed - but I'm just frustrated at the lack of progress 
> outside of the 'basics'.

The next meeting of SVOSUG will feature a presentation by the Xorg group, 
notably Alan Coopersmith, showing the latest Xorg changes and/or what is 
in store, but to also show Compiz.

Your comments got me to thinking, and I have really come to the conclusion 
that Solaris has made some incredible improvements on the desktop, IMO.

1) The new-boot architecture brought us into the modern age of booting.

2) Xorg replaced Xsun as the X server, and we have more support for video 
than we ever had.

3) RealPlayer - This was a long and hard battle, and finally we have a 
RealPlayer that is included in Solaris and/or can be added to OpenSolaris.

4) Flash...another long and hard battle which I was involved in before I 
joined Sun. We have had some problems with the current Flash 9 being 
delivered, but it is out now and we're in ok shape on this, IMO.

5) NWAM - this will change the way folks use their laptops, the way they 
connect, and will elliminate much of the confusion in system configuration 
that prevents new folks from being able to use their systems more easily.

6) JDS - while not my favorite desktop, it has moved Solaris away from the 
old CDE, and this is good for many of the new adopters of 
Solaris/OpenSolaris. There have been quite a few developments in JDS and 
quite a bit has changed.

7) Additional desktop software such as GIMP, gphoto, evince, etc...this 
has made it easier for the bulk of folks to use their Solaris/OpenSolaris 
systems to interact with web work, image editing, and incorporating their 
digital pics.

8) StarOffice - was not even being built for Solaris on x86 when I joined 
Sun more than 4 years ago. It has been packaged and on the system for the 
past 2 years at least. This is a huge improvement and we have an office 
suite that allows us to function in the real world.

9) Mozilla, Firefox, Thunderbird - also not being built for 
Solaris/OpenSolaris when I came to Sun. I pounded on the folks responsible 
for it and made them change their ways by starting to build the packages 
and distributing them on my own. We have current versions in new builds 
now, and it's setup with flash to work. This is a HUGE improvement over 
what we had 2 years ago.

10) wifi - people laughed when you mentioned wifi on Solaris a couple 
years ago. Now we have several decent drivers that allow us to connect 
over wireless networks, and using WEP as well.

I can probably think of more, given time, but this list above I believe 
represents an incredible leap for Solaris, and certainly on x86. Sun has 
shown that they are in the x86 space for the long haul, even the execs 
speak it on stage when they give presentations these days.

Do you really think that this is all a part of the "basics"? These, IMO, 
are huge improvements to bring out system/desktop to the masses, and 
Solaris/OpenSolaris continues to move forward.

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Alan DuBoff - Solaris x86 IHV/OEM Group
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