> Since Murdock and the rest of Sun's marketing > department decided to > stab the community in the back by defining by > executive fiat what > exactly "OpenSolaris" meant, perhaps it's time to > rename what the old > bits used to be. > > Anyone on OGB or other committees, what's the > likelihood we can > reclaim ON et al. with a new name to allow people > like Nexenta to > continue to be part of the community. > > Sun can call their distro OpenSolaris if they like, > but perhaps the > solution to keep them happy and not anger and split > the community is > to ignore "OpenSolaris" as being the Sun Microsystems > product it is, > and call $foo the community and the code > > comments? > _______________________________________________ > opensolaris-discuss mailing list > [email protected]
I looked at my OpenSolaris.org personal profile, and it showed that I was registered on 06/23/05. As such, I out-rank you in terms of seniority. In the environment in which I was brought up, seniority means a great deal, and I don't approve of your mis-characterization of what the community (whatever this term means) might have or have not thought. In fact, I feel offended that you profess to speak "for" the community (& by calling Ian by his last name), when in fact, you were speaking only of your own opinion. I respect your privilege to do so, but in light of honesty and the need to maintain a minimum professional decency, it should be clearly labeled as such. I happen to applaud what Ian and "the rest of Sun's marketing department" (quoting your original message) have done; IMNSHO, they did exactly what should have been done. At the present time, many components are missing from the OpenSolaris Developer Preview LiveCD, what we should be busily doing, is to try to fill in the gaps. Of course, it is more exciting to engage in political guffaws especially in this "community". Technical matters? Sorry, this "community" has no interest. Many posters mentioned "OGB". This is something, I think, that need be clarified, at least as far as I am concerned. OGB has several individual members whom I have communicated therewith in private and respect a lot. However, as a whole, I don't really know what it is (I was not given a chance to vote for its members). Also, based on some stupid personal attacks that I received from its member(s), I don't even think it is legit. Of course, this is only my personal opinion. I have tried to run essentially all the other "OpenSolaris" distros on my two laptops (HP ze2000 and HP dv9000z); none worked (unable to show graphic screen). Ubuntu 7.10 worked on the first but not the second. To my greatest surprise, I am able to run the Developer Preview on both of them (though there are glitches, at least it boots into GNOME flawlessly). On the dv9000z (17" widescreen, Turion X2 dual-core), the Developer Preview consumes about 28-30 Watts, vs. ~45 Watts for SuSE (10.2) and Vista. I spent most of my professional career at Exxon, looking for increasingly-difficult-to-find oil reserves. The difference in energy consumption alone should give enough incentives to make it a religion to bring Solaris to a wide adaptation. Unlike Linux, Solaris is a much more matured system, and thus it is very difficult for newcomers like myself to make contributions. This is very frustrating to us, & we are really looking forward to those Solaris gurus to contribute their expertise (& spend less time on political matters) to ease our learning curve. So far, this has been quite disappointing. In summary, I don't see any problem of renaming Indiana "OpenSolaris". In May of 2005, I gave a presentation on OpenSolaris & CDDL to a number of key governmental officials at Taiwan's Ministry of Economic Affairs. This was listed as one of the main events in their Open Source Software developments of 2005. During China's 17th Party Congress just concluded two weeks ago in Beijing (this is the MOST important event in China; it elects new party leaders and sets the directions of what the government will do in the next five years), the Phoenix TV (鳳凰電視台, the Chinese version of CNN), for totally unknown reasons (which could be purely coincidental), used a screenshot that contains a very conspicuous Sun's logo to demonstrate that the new generation of China's top leaders--mainly the 25 members of the Politburo--are taking IP matters seriously. The year 2008 can be a very exciting year for Sun and, more importantly, for Solaris. We can try to explain what "OpenSolaris" means--but no one will understand. Nothing is more effective than a real thing in binary format. I am sure the opinions of the "community" should have been consulted, but at this time, I don't think we have a community that is tangible enough from which important business decisions can (or actually "should") depend. In the almost two and half years that I have been on the OpenSolaris.org forum, I believe I have yet to receive a helpful reply from a non-Sun Solaris guru to the technical questions that I posted. Interestingly, I am very confident that now we have an official OpenSolaris distro, this should bring more participants to this forum, and the benefits will joyfully spill to, and bring more, other "non-official" OpenSolaris distros. This message posted from opensolaris.org _______________________________________________ opensolaris-discuss mailing list [email protected]
