Dennis Clarke wrote:
> 
> > On 11/1/07, John Sonnenschein
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> Since Murdock and the rest of Sun's marketing
> department decided to
> >> stab the community in the back by defining by
> executive fiat what
> >> exactly "OpenSolaris" meant, perhaps it's time to
> rename what the old
> >> bits used to be.
> >>
> >> Anyone on OGB or other committees, what's the
> likelihood we can
> >> reclaim ON et al. with a new name to allow people
> like Nexenta to
> >> continue to be part of the community.
> >>
> >> Sun can call their distro OpenSolaris if they
> like, but perhaps the
> >> solution to keep them happy and not anger and
> split the community is
> >> to ignore "OpenSolaris" as being the Sun
> Microsystems product it is,
> >> and call $foo the community and the code
> >
> > It will be tricky. OpenSolaris.org isn't a legal
> entity that can
> > register trademarks, we would need some
> organization to register them
> > for us. (Probably a new $foo foundation). Since
> we'd have to spend
> > money to incorporate, and file trademarks, we would
> have to shell out
> > a few thousand dollars, which would probably have
> to come directly
> > from personal donations. (I figure 40 x $100 would
> be enough to get it
> > going.)
> >
> > That said I am tentatively in favor of starting a
> $foo foundation, and
> > registering $foo.org, and filing for $foo
> trademarks.
> >
> > I propose that we send a proposal to the OGB to
> establish an
> > independent foundation.
> >
> > -Brian
> 
> I don't think you guys have the first foggy clue
>  what it takes to create a
> orporation, a shareholders agreement, a board of
> directors, register
> trademarks and then pay for all the infrastructure
> out of your own pocket
> while building a future. As someone that has done all
> of that, over and
> over, I think you are grossly mistaken on a number of
> points as well as a
> budget.
> 
> Really .. I don't know where either of you are
>  going or if anyone will
> ollow but neither of you seem to have a clue.
> 
> Dennis Clarke
> http://www.blastwave.org/


Dennis, this sounds a bit like old wise dad is teaching his sons a lesson. Do 
you think this is the appropriate approach of how to deal with long-term core 
community members like Brian Gupta or John Sonnenschein? I do not think so.
But what you are saying about your experience with trademarks reminds me of 
something else: That you consider and treat Blastwave as *your* registered 
business (Aren't you proud of being listed as a partner-BUSINESS of Sun?), 
rather than as a fully open, democracy-driven *community* movement.
This appears to be the true reason, why www.blastwave.org and 
www.opensolaris.org are not in any closer relationship.
Sorry for this comment, but I am more interested in seeing the opensolaris 
community grow, than in registering my own MartUX [T.M.]'s.

After re-considering all this: I cannot return to csw, as it is modelled and 
set-up until now.
(This shall not end in a personal fight, it is simply meant to be a status 
update of my attitude, I will leave it alone at this point, thank you.)


-- 
Best regards,
Martin Bochnig
http://www.martux.org/marTux___OSDevCon2007.pdf
http://opensolaris.org/os/project/fox/
 
 
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