>> Brian Gupta wrote: >> For those that don't know Dr Fielding's history with the OpenSolaris >> project, Dr. Fielding was invited by Sun to join the project because >> Sun wanted to create an Open Source project similar to what Roy had >> achieved before in creating the Apache Foundation. Dr. Fielding is a >> serious computer scientist who helped develop the HTTP protocol, is >> one of the original authors of the Apache web server and helped found >> the Apache foundation. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roy_Fielding >> >> Much of the controversy that is happening now is due to Sun's >> ombudsman, Simon Phipps, driving a change to the founding documents, >> constitution and charter for the OpenSolaris organization, so they >> match the "facts on the ground", rather than the original ideals as >> laid out by Sun. Apparently the powers that be have had a change of >> heart about how open they want the project to be. ie. originally the >> Open in OpenSolaris meant "Open Source" and "Open Development Model". >> Sun no longer truly seems interested in these and Open has become just >> a marketing term, to be bandied about.
On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 9:23 AM, W. Wayne Liauh <[email protected]> tried to respond:: >> For those that don't know Dr Fielding's history with >> the OpenSolaris >> project, > > Oh yes, I remember him vividly as the person who apparently was so despised > of the fact that the desktop > > community dared to sponsore the Indiana project that he went through the > process of trying to disfranchise the > desktop community, totally oblivious of another perhaps much more important > fact that many Solaris wannabes are > using the desktop community as the gateway to their newly-discovered promised > land. W. Wayne Liauh, so are you then implying, that Dr. Fielding is just somebody who can silently be ignored, a script kiddie? Somebody who is incapable of analyzing a problem? What did you say, a "Solaris-Wannabe"??? Who only wants to catch attention (because he otherwise doesn't get any)? This is interesting. If you feel that you are in a position to make any statement of that sort about the entire issue as described by Dr. Fielding and Mr. Brian Gupta, where are your references? Where is your wikipedia.org entry end where are the internationally recognized fruits of your work, such as standards-organizations approved white-papers, among a myriad of other contributions? This is not a personal attack. I'm simply matter-of-facts- and purely subject-oriented. And I don't know why Sun wants to push through any new constitution. Normally changes to constitutions most of the time happen after lost wars. I see an analogy here. And the OpenSolaris community is the loser. Don't you realize this? p.s. I hope Sun survives and I wish Sun much luck, from heart. But I am embarrassed by the fact, that Brian Gupta and Dr. Fielding are simply right with their concerns. People with a short memory and the natural tendency to romantize the (otherwise quite raw) world around them, might simply forget and forgive. I, on the other hand can (or could) forgive, but not forget. Some true understanding/self-criticism/insight and an official apology to the OpenSolaris.org community would be a beginning. Until this happens, the remains of a once existing (devel.-) community should not simply forgive Sun. Take the time to re-read Brian's and Roy's messages, until you understand this. martin bochnig _______________________________________________ opensolaris-discuss mailing list [email protected]
