I totally agree with you on this. I don't know why Sun doesn't just make a cut of SXCE and call it Solaris 11. I mean if customers can't migrate from Solaris to OpenSolaris, then what's the point in a market where Sun/Oracle needs to turn a profit? It's bad enough that one would have to go backward over a decade in Jumpstart capabilities and use AI to deploy OpenSolaris on servers. That alone would turn major customers away since it would be too painful to deploy, let alone impossible to upgrade to. Hell, just think about all the folks out there with S10 zones already deployed.
It would make more sense to take things from Indiana and integrate them into S11. Have SVR4 and IPS together until S12. Then make the split to IPS as the primary with all OS components and addons in IPS format. Besides making the transition to OpenSolaris won't happen for serious paying customers until the certifications of all the top-tier apps happens. Without that, OpenSolaris won't be adopted. I'd love to see OpenSolaris(Indiana) move forward and replace S10. But it's missing some very important things: 1. Commercial buy-in from ISVs 2. Easy upgrade path from S10 3. Enterprise quality deployment model (AI flavored JET integrated??) 4. Guarantee that apps will continue to work (appcert??) 5. Focus on Enterprise Use (Focus on desktop doesn't help non-developers) Well, those are my thoughts. If Sun and the OpenSolaris community can fix those issues before next year, then great! Make a cut of it and call it Solaris 11. Otherwise, we're fumbling in the dark taking an enterprise quality OS and trying to make it fit on laptops and kindels for a market thats not there and not going to make Sun or Oracle any money. *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* Octave J. Orgeron Solaris Virtualization Architect and Consultant Web: http://unixconsole.blogspot.com E-Mail: unixcons...@yahoo.com *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* ----- Original Message ---- From: Peter Tribble <peter.trib...@gmail.com> To: Octave Orgeron <unixcons...@yahoo.com> Cc: Gary Gendel <g...@genashor.com>; opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2009 2:25:31 PM Subject: Re: [osol-discuss] SXCE end-of-life plans On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 3:06 AM, Octave Orgeron<unixcons...@yahoo.com> wrote: > > It does bring up the big question.. how will customers migrate from S10 to > OpenSolaris? Will they bother at all? Forcing a change in direction, and forcing new technologies on customers, will lead customers to evaluate their use of the platform. Given the constraints on most IT departments, adding new technologies to the mix is unlikely, so rather than migrate to a new Solaris technology, they're likely to simply migrate to RHEL (or whatever other platforms they already have deployed). If there was a Solaris 11 based on SXCE released, I would just roll it out and stand a good chance of using its strengths to increase its usage. Gain the new technologies, easy to deploy, compatible with both the software and administrative frameworks we already have. With OpenSolaris, it's frankly not ready for testing let alone deployment. -- -Peter Tribble http://www.petertribble.co.uk/ - http://ptribble.blogspot.com/ _______________________________________________ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
