Hi Dave, This sound very interesting, especially for people such as my self that specialize in virtualization. LDoms presents a wide selection of choices on how to replicate a guest domain, image files, volumes, ZFS, etc. And containers obviously have the ZFS clone feature.
I agree that flash archives, while useful, are rather cumbersome. Jumpstart can be powerful when extended properly, but again it adds a lot of up-front complexity and requires specialized knowledge that not all SA's have. There are some things I do like about AI, but it definitely needs some more work. One thing that would be interesting is some mechanism for configuring, securing, and customizing AI installs. Some mechanism for creating a configuration snapshot (things like SMF service settings, /etc conf files, security settings, etc.) that could be used for AI installs, auditing installed systems against, and remediation. Something like that would be useful for enterprises, cloud environments, and even those who want to build appliances. *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* Octave J. Orgeron Solaris Virtualization Architect and Consultant Web: http://unixconsole.blogspot.com E-Mail: unixcons...@yahoo.com *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* ----- Original Message ---- From: Dave Miner <dmi...@opensolaris.org> To: Octave Orgeron <unixcons...@yahoo.com> Cc: Shawn Walker <swal...@opensolaris.org>; b...@mirrorshades.net; opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 9:25:19 AM Subject: Re: [osol-discuss] SXCE end-of-life plans Octave Orgeron wrote: > With the big diff being that Amazon probably does not use AI to create new > instances. They probably just clone a pre-made image. A little different from > a typical environment. > I'd be very surprised if they were using AI to deploy each image. I'd also be surprised if they used Jumpstart for Solaris 10 images, were they offering them. Cloud providers of virtual instances tend to use custom replication techniques exploiting their underlying infrastructure and only use the OS tools like AI or Jumpstart or Kickstart to generate their master images - even S10 flash archive-type replication is too cumbersome for those environments. We'll be providing a lot more tooling to support these things: a virtual machine construction extension to the Distribution Constructor is already in progress, and later on we'll be providing various image-replication extensions to the Automated Installer. Dave > *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* > Octave J. Orgeron > Solaris Virtualization Architect and Consultant > Web: http://unixconsole.blogspot.com > E-Mail: unixcons...@yahoo.com > *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* > > > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: Shawn Walker <swal...@opensolaris.org> > To: b...@mirrorshades.net > Cc: opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org > Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2009 2:45:56 PM > Subject: Re: [osol-discuss] SXCE end-of-life plans > > Bryan Allen wrote: >> +------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> | On 2009-08-11 14:30:50, Shawn Walker wrote: >> | | Peter Tribble wrote: >> | >If there was a Solaris 11 based on SXCE released, I would just roll >> | >it out and stand a good chance of using its strengths to increase its >> | >usage. Gain the new technologies, easy to deploy, compatible with >> | >both the software and administrative frameworks we already have. >> | >With OpenSolaris, it's frankly not ready for testing let alone deployment. >> | | I've been using OpenSolaris 200x releases as my day-to-day desktop since >> | developer preview 1 and have not used SXCE since then. It also has | >> worked well on two different latpops (both very new). >> | | It all depends on what your deployment and usage requirements are. >> >> Yes, it does. And the majorty of people relating their ambivalence about >> pushing OpenSolaris into production in the near future are talking about >> servers. In our datacenters. And convincing our bosses that it's a good idea >> to >> so do. >> >> The whole tone of this thread are sysadmins being wary of unproven change. >> We >> don't care if it runs on your laptop. Are you being disingenuous on purpose >> or >> just not paying attention? > > I'm paying attention, but everyone has their own interpretation of statements > made. Regardless, I feel it is perfectly valid to point out that it is > useable on laptops and workstations. > > In addition, I also believe that OpenSolaris in its current state is usable > in a datacenter depending on your usage and deployment requirements. For > example, Amazon EC3's service offers OpenSolaris images, which obviously run > in a datacenter. > > Cheers, > -- Shawn Walker > _______________________________________________ > opensolaris-discuss mailing list > opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org > > > > _______________________________________________ > opensolaris-discuss mailing list > opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org _______________________________________________ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
