On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 9:51 AM, Uros Nedic <[email protected]> wrote: > > Does Google have a focus? They are going pretty well. > If you are on the market you have to diversify your > product portfolio to be able to minimize risk, and hope > that one technology will bring revenues to cover all possible > looses on other sides. This is how life goes. When you > did not found your "successful project" and you experience > recession then you will have to do exactly what SUN execs > did. This could happen to ORACLE, too. Only difference is > that ORACLE had more luck than SUN. > You cannot eliminate uncertainty that future brings. > Otherwise, we could think about it that we invented > time-machine. > Uros > > --------------------------------------------- > "Man is the lowest-cost, 150-pound, nonlinear, > all-purpose computer system which can be > mass-produced by unskilled labor." > -NASA in 1965
Hi Uros, although it generally _sounds_ good what you wrote, the emphasis is on _generally_ and sounds. How closely and for how long have you paid attention to Sun related biz news? http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=java How many ¨Sun NC¨ shows have you visited in person or on the web? Since before 2000 or after? Secondly I think that google has pretty much of (internal) focus, while Sun didn´t. I agree with what Erik writes. Sun tried to move forward into all directions at once, 360 degrees at the same time. If I have more time I can post specific examples and links, from 1999 onwards. And btw: I do not believe too much in ¨coincidents¨ or ¨luck¨. %martin >> Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2010 22:41:42 -0800 >> From: [email protected] >> CC: [email protected]; [email protected] >> Subject: Re: [osol-discuss] >> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/01/22/sun_schwartz_signoff/ >> >> Edward Ned Harvey wrote: >> >> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/01/22/sun_schwartz_signoff/ >> >> >> >> I always knew (after 2006 at least) that JS is a God-damn *TRAITOR*. >> >> >> >> ¨Upon change in control, every employee needs to emotionally resign >> >> from Sun. Go home, light a candle, and let go of the expectations and >> >> assumptions that defined Sun as a workplace. Honor and remember them, >> >> but let them go.¨ >> >> >> > >> > I don't think there's anything wrong with that at all. He's right. Those >> > people from Sun who are moving on to Oracle ... they are getting new >> > bosses, >> > and a new corporate culture, and moving in a new direction. This is not >> > comfortable, but it's better than getting terminated if the company >> > collapsed. >> > >> > Oracle didn't buy Sun to gain their idealism or culture. They wanted to >> > acquire talent and technology. Those employees who are transitioning ... >> > must accept the fact that it is a transition. Things will not remain the >> > same. They must embrace change, and welcome their new ... Robotic >> > overlords. ;-) Seriously though, except the overlords part. >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > opensolaris-discuss mailing list >> > [email protected] >> > >> >> From my standpoint as a current Sun employee, my biggest problem with >> Sun has been it's lack of focus. We've spent way to much time, effort, >> and money doing a variety of neat things, all which /might/ be really >> sweet. However, as a consequence, all of them tend to be late-to-market >> or perpetually starved for resources to accomplish their stated goals. >> I hold Sun's Sr. management responsible for this lack of focus, in that >> they've flailed around, and been unable to make the hard decisions as to >> WHICH "cool" tech is worth the 100% effort (and, stick to those >> assessments for more than 6 months), and then cut (or, preferably >> reassign) those resources from non-priority projects. This problem has >> been exacerbated by the layoffs in the last two years, where, instead of >> cutting whole teams and canceling projects, we've had to absorb 10% cut >> across most divisions, without a corresponding adjustment of priorities >> and goals. >> >> The sorry thing I see of this whole merger is that it was COMPLETELY >> UNNECESSARY. Sun had more than enough cash on hand, and quite a few >> very profitable products. We could very well have returned to being a >> (quite) profitable company, if a hard focus could have been attained. >> And, of course, the idiot distraction of trying to buy other companies >> (MySQL, anyone?) which don't help our existing core competencies. >> >> I like Jonathan, and supported many of his initiatives. But he >> fundamentally failed in being able to reign-in and refocus Sun, which >> was what could have saved the company. It's sad. >> >> We'll see what the Oracle buyout does for focus and budgets (I'm >> actually hopeful here). I'm also hoping we can retain some of the >> fabulously innovative culture here, but that's a much more sketchy >> possibility. >> >> Then again, what do I really know. I'm just a line-level worker here. >> >> >> [I in no way speak for anyone but myself at Sun. This is merely my >> personal opinion.] >> >> -- >> Erik Trimble >> Java System Support >> Mailstop: usca22-123 >> Phone: x17195 >> Santa Clara, CA >> Timezone: US/Pacific (GMT-0800) >> >> _______________________________________________ >> opensolaris-discuss mailing list >> [email protected] > > ________________________________ > Keep your friends updated— even when you’re not signed in. > _______________________________________________ > opensolaris-discuss mailing list > [email protected] > _______________________________________________ opensolaris-discuss mailing list [email protected]
