You (Joerg Schilling) wrote:
> Matthias Pfützner <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> > You (?????? ??????   (Martin Bochnig)) wrote:
> > > Did you notice? Their first move after the takeover was to lay-off Sun
> > > open-source officer Simon Phipps. Can you explain this with your
> > > logics from above? How would you?
> >
> > He left on his own:
> >
> >    http://twitter.com/webmink/status/10861922797
> >
> >    http://webmink.com/2010/03/08/sundown/
> >
> > As he left on March 8th, and the change to Oracle in the UK was on March 
> > 1st,
> > it's absolutely clear, that he decided on his own to leave Oracle. He had a
> > job at Oracle, otherwhise he would have left BEFORE March 1st! So, do not 
> > TURN
> 
> Unles you can explain us the legal situation in Britain, you seem to make 
> assumptions that have not been proven.
> 
> In Germany there is paragraph 613a BGB (Betriebsübergang) that grants the 
> continuation of a job even if the company is sold. If there is something 
> similar
> in Britain, your asumptions are false.

I know from a lot of my colleagues inside Sun/Oracle, that ALL that saw the
LEC have had new contract-offers and have to had those signed BEFORE.

>From that I assume, that this is the same for Simon. Yes, an assumption, but
based on infos from a lot of colleagues over there in UK!

And the BGB is one of the reasons, why LEC in Britain was earlier than the LEC
in Germany (expected July 1st).

> > truth to FUD, like you try to do for days, if not weeks lately!
> 
> The text in his Blog seems to be neutral and I cannot see a hint that proves 
> one 
> or the other.
> 
> In Germany it is completely unusual to leave a company on days different from 
> the end of a month or at least the mid of a month. If someone leaves at March 
> 8th and does not immediately start a new job, this would be a hint for being 
> fired. Without an explanation from Simon, everything is speculative.

Yes, it might be good to hear from Simon, but, as stated, everyone that saw
March 1st had an offer from Oracle (afaik)...

> Note that Simon originially claimed that he does not yet know whet to do next.
> The fact that he now is a director at the OpenSource Initiative does not help 
> us....
> 
> Jörg

  Matthias
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