And, for the audience to note here, we (a couple people inside Sun/Oracle) are
also trying to get those, who can speak to send out some words.
But, as Simon said:
Oracle is a company that passes information along, once the decisions are
made. As long as there are no decisions, there is no info.
It's as simple as that.
Matthias
I (Matthias Pfützner) wrote:
> OK, as Simon now stated, that he has not been offered a position at Oracle, I
> have to withdraw my assumption, that everybody who "passed March 1st" was
> offered one...
>
> Sorry for the confusion...
>
> Matthias
>
> I (Matthias Pfützner) wrote:
> > You (Joerg Schilling) wrote:
> > > Matthias Pfützner <[email protected]> wrote:
> > >
> > > > You (?????? ?????? (Martin Bochnig)) wrote:
> > > > > Did you notice? Their first move after the takeover was to lay-off Sun
> > > > > open-source officer Simon Phipps. Can you explain this with your
> > > > > logics from above? How would you?
> > > >
> > > > He left on his own:
> > > >
> > > > http://twitter.com/webmink/status/10861922797
> > > >
> > > > http://webmink.com/2010/03/08/sundown/
> > > >
> > > > As he left on March 8th, and the change to Oracle in the UK was on
> > > > March 1st,
> > > > it's absolutely clear, that he decided on his own to leave Oracle. He
> > > > had a
> > > > job at Oracle, otherwhise he would have left BEFORE March 1st! So, do
> > > > not TURN
> > >
> > > Unles you can explain us the legal situation in Britain, you seem to make
> > > assumptions that have not been proven.
> > >
> > > In Germany there is paragraph 613a BGB (Betriebsübergang) that grants the
> > > continuation of a job even if the company is sold. If there is something
> > > similar
> > > in Britain, your asumptions are false.
> >
> > I know from a lot of my colleagues inside Sun/Oracle, that ALL that saw the
> > LEC have had new contract-offers and have to had those signed BEFORE.
> >
> > >From that I assume, that this is the same for Simon. Yes, an assumption,
> > >but
> > based on infos from a lot of colleagues over there in UK!
> >
> > And the BGB is one of the reasons, why LEC in Britain was earlier than the
> > LEC
> > in Germany (expected July 1st).
> >
> > > > truth to FUD, like you try to do for days, if not weeks lately!
> > >
> > > The text in his Blog seems to be neutral and I cannot see a hint that
> > > proves one
> > > or the other.
> > >
> > > In Germany it is completely unusual to leave a company on days different
> > > from
> > > the end of a month or at least the mid of a month. If someone leaves at
> > > March
> > > 8th and does not immediately start a new job, this would be a hint for
> > > being
> > > fired. Without an explanation from Simon, everything is speculative.
> >
> > Yes, it might be good to hear from Simon, but, as stated, everyone that saw
> > March 1st had an offer from Oracle (afaik)...
> >
> > > Note that Simon originially claimed that he does not yet know whet to do
> > > next.
> > > The fact that he now is a director at the OpenSource Initiative does not
> > > help
> > > us....
> > >
> > > Jörg
> >
> > Matthias
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