Joerg Schilling wrote:
You are correct: without OpenSourcing Solaris, Sun would have been in trouble earlier.
What evidence do you have for this? I know there have been externally sourced code contributions, but how much of it needed source rather than the stable ABIs, and how material is it really? More to the point - what revenue did it generate?
So you can answer your question "I'm not sure how the open sourcing was successful for Sun shareholders." with a _yes_, as it helped to raise the Sun stock price.....
Very briefly, yes, but since then I think it hasn't materially helped shift anything that generated revenue for Sun, and Sun's stock hardly trended up on its recent improving quality.
I further believe that a closer collaboration with the cummunity (as intended by Sun in September 2004) would have given the additional momentum for Sun to push it into the win zone for a longer time.
Well you can believe that, but belief in that is behind a lot of the open source hype, and one thing that's hard to find is concrete evidence of how it translated into a sound business plan and revenue.
This is however a lost chance and we cannot roll back time...

Indeed, but we can try to learn from it, and I think questioning how and when open source is helpful to a technology creator is worthwhile.

Sun's position was fundamentally different to Red Hat and post-NetWare SUSE, since they owned the things they were giving away, and had done most of the development (or had paid for it).

I think its worth considering what they could have done differently and why. I can't help thinking that they would have had a better chance by going in completely the other direction and using their grip on Java and Open Office (and mysql, eventually) to try to cut off Linux's air supply and stunt its datacentre growth until Solaris on X64 could get a decent foothold, but its all conjecture, and it would have accepted handing a potential short-term gain to Microsoft.

James

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