You (Svein Skogen) wrote:
> > Check:
> > 
> >        http://storagemojo.com/2007/09/19/cerns-data-corruption-research/
> 
> Which is another worthless document, without any info on what
> controllers they actually tested with.
> 
> I too can make claim about corruption and data loss. But without
> pointing the finger to what was actually tested, that's just a claim,
> nothing more.
> 
> //Svein

What's it, your after? That study is more than 2 years old now, and the
RAID-controllers, that didn't work, probably will have updated their FWs by
now.

And: The Authors are listed, so, go ask them, if you really are interested in
those details.

More importantly is the fact, that bit-errors DO happen, and as I stated
earlier, with the average failure rate and storage size of today it's close to
100% certainty, that if you have more than 128 TB of data, you have an
error. That's a simple derivative from the infos, available from the
manufactures themselfes:

For example, for the Seagate ST31000640SS (1 TB SATA):

AFR: 0,73%
Nonrecoverable Read Errors per Bits Read: 1 sector per 10E15
Error Control/Correction (ECC): 10 bit

>From AFR: If you have 200 disks, 1.46 die per year.
ECC: If you have 1024 errors, one will NOT be detected
After that: 1 sector per 10E15 Bit ~= 128 TB is defect
      More precisely: 10E15 = (10E3)E5 = 1024E5 Bit = 1024 Terabit = 116.4
      Terabyte => There's a defect sector every 116.4 Terabit.

These are the DOCUMENTED ERROR RATES of standard consumer disks! Take
enterprise disks, and it's around 1 sector per 10E16 bit and an AFR of 0.55%
(Seagate Savvio 15K.2 ST9146752SS). So, not as bad as above, but still there
are documented possibilities of errors!

And, therefore, it's now a necessity to do error checking at every level!

     Matthias
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