On 6/19/2010 10:42 PM, Tim Scanlon wrote:
ian said:

"Erik,

I think you are understating the usefulness of the the OpenSolaris desktop. "
Ian, Erik's a frakkin endlessly blithering idiot about all of this. He doesn't 
know what he's talking about, he doesn't know Sun's history, and he damn sure 
doesn't know how things work in the real customer world. Personally I really 
wish he'd stfu until he has something useful to say other than a pile of pole 
smoking mainframe worship. All of my computers, most of which have some variety 
of sparc cpu in them, are desktop systems. I could go on at length about all 
the ways that he's wrong, how he's wrong, and do it all on a case by case 
basis. However I'm not a pedant, and I don't like arguing with them. Thinking 
about if I might need to f-rt or not is a more useful way to spend the time 
than doing that.

I'm just glad I don't have to work with him. Reading his offal is bad enough, 
as he's a firehose of FUD who isn't doing anything good for anyone here for 
sure.

Tim

Sorry you feel that way. We see things from a different background, it seems. Mine are mostly driven by my experiences in Academic institutions, a systems consulting cooperative, and a variety of Silicon Valley companies, Sun being just the latest. I get my views from the Sales folks about what sells, and about how things are actually used by my own experiences and those of my various professional friends. I certainly can't claim to have an all-encompassing view, but it is a rather varied one.

I'm pretty sure, though, that nothing I've said has ever even approached FUD. And I don't think anyone is going to mistaken me for an Oracle shill or astroturfer.


You are right though, in that I think we're talking past eachother at this point. Time to end this particular conversation.



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Erik Trimble
Java System Support
Mailstop:  usca22-123
Phone:  x17195
Santa Clara, CA

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