> From: [email protected] [mailto:opensolaris-
> [email protected]] On Behalf Of me
> 
> Ned-Ed,
> 
> please give up, I know you love solaris but quit trying to justify
> Oracle. 

I don't care about justifying oracle or redhat or microsoft or apple or
anyone else.  I just care about using good stuff for whatever it's best at.

I want opensolaris to be open too.  Like it used to be.

But keep it in perspective.  When people rant on and on, beating and beating
the dead horse, being consistently negative, and rehashing all the lack of
knowledge and spreading FUD because nobody has any actual knowledge ...  It
gets in the news, and people who follow the community and have interest in
these things start thinking it's true, and newcomers hear all this going on
unchallenged, they start to think maybe opensolaris sucks or the users who
use it regret the fact that they use it.  They are discouraged and
disheartened, and less likely to try using it.

What good does it do?

Even in the worst case, closed-source solaris 10 unpatched without a support
contract, running on barely supported hardware... This solution for use as a
file server is immensely better than any equivalent netapp.  

Due to negativity in the community, I hesitated.  A year ago when my netapp
was reaching end of life, I had to consider upgrading the netapp or
switching completely off it, and replacing it with solaris.  But ever since
I did, Oh My God, what a relief.  It's like night and day.  This thing
utterly *destroys* what we had before.

My CEO had heard of problems with solaris/opensolaris and ZFS.  There was
fear about whether or not the new platform would be supportable moving
forward.  He asked me to justify the decision and refute all the fears,
which I couldn't do.

To keep perspective and reduce fear, I keep repeating worst case scenarios,
which aren't that bad when compared to the alternatives.  In this case,
unpatched unsupported solaris 10 on barely supported Dell or generic
hardware...  Would *still* be a huge improvement over what we had before
with netapp.

I, and everyone in my company, are immensely happy that we decided to make
the switch.

If you want to be negative, keep it in perspective and keep it reasonable
and balanced.  

There were altogether too many people in this list, a month ago, ranting on
and on about how displeased they are with oracle, and complaining that they
don't get more support and openness from their free product.

People pointlessly bashing commercial software in general, and solaris in
particular.  There is a common occurrence in this list, of people referring
to commercial solaris as somehow huge and overpriced, as if it's a million
dollars.  $470/yr for an enterprise server OS with support is *nothing* to a
company who uses that server to run their business.  And it's even
competitive against other commercial enterprise OSes.

Don't like how closed things are now?  Try WAFL.  See who's being closed
then.

In all the complaining that I hear, even in the worst case, it's still
better than the alternative.  That's why we're all here, and that's why
we're all using this OS.

So encourage more people to use it.  You'll be happy, and they'll be happy.

Complain about things, if it is somehow productive in some way.

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