This is an example of a relatively common use-case that I was alluding to in a 
previous email...it would be nice to not have to figure this out either by 
guessing, reverse-engineering something, or other sub-optimal form of 
development strategy....

Randy


On Nov 26, 2009, at 4:03 PM, John R Pierce wrote:

> Rene Hollan wrote:
>> 
>> Oh, you need to dig deeper, to understand the semantics and not just the 
>> syntax of those APIs.
>> 
>> I didn't say using the source as documentation was convenient, but it is 
>> possible, to any degree of detail you want.
>> 
>> To wit: given the source code, it is possible to create documentation to any 
>> degree of convenience. But, given some instance of external documentation 
>> and no source, it is not possible to improve the convenience factor of that 
>> documentation to an arbitrary degree.
>> 
>> Suggesting what people who donate their time DO is rather like herding cats. 
>> Some like coding and others like documenting and some like both. Perhaps 
>> instead of an admonition that the project needs better documentation, a 
>> question regarding who is willing to contribute to said better documentation 
>> is more in order.
>> 
> 
> unluckily, those of us who most need the docs are least able to contribute, 
> as I haven't the foggiest notion how to properly use any of the APIs at 
> present.   I suppose I need to get the ORA book and start reading, as 
> eventually I"m going to be helping another development team at work with 
> getting an SSL connection going that needs to use a client certificate stored 
> on a PKCS#11 PKI token, so I'll be sorting out how to use libssl w/ opensc's 
> engine-pkcs11 module, who's documentation is just about as non-existant as 
> that of openssl.  this task was very easy in Java, as Java's SecureSocket 
> hides all the complexity, up to and including full support for PKCS#11 
> plugins.
> 
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