Sean, I quantified it in 2016 for some of the patches that came in to
Trove; approximately 130 hours of CI time per patch given the number of
hacks that the person took before even getting pep8 to run.

Close to a release boundary, that had very bad results on an already
fragile Trove gate.


-amrith


On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 9:42 AM, Sean Dague <s...@dague.net> wrote:

> On 09/25/2017 09:28 AM, Doug Hellmann wrote:
> <snip>
> > I'm less concerned with the motivation of someone submitting the
> > patches than I am with their effect. Just like the situation we had
> > with the bug squash days a year or so ago, if we had a poorly timed
> > set of these trivial patches coming in at our feature freeze deadline,
> > it would be extremely disruptive. So to me the fact that we're
> > seeing them in large batches means we have people who are not fully
> > engaged with the community and don't understand the impact they're
> > having. My goal is to reach out and try to improve that engagement,
> > and try to help them become more fully constructive contributors.
>
> I think that quantifying how big that impact is would be good before
> deciding it needs to be a priority to act upon. There are lots of things
> that currently swamp our system, and on my back of the envelope math and
> spot checking on resources used, these really aren't a big concern.
>
> But it's harder to see that until we really start accounting for CI time
> by project / person, and what kinds of things really do consume the system.
>
>         -Sean
>
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